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Health Savings Accounts (HSA) are a product that offers consumers a way to save on their health care costs. If you meet the qualifications and open a HSA, you receive a deduction on your income tax return which lowers your taxable income. In effect, the monies you then use from your HSA to pay medical expenses is tax free income, the same as employee health insurance deductions taken out of a pay check before tax.

One of the qualifications for opening an HSA is that your health insurance policy qualifies as a “high-deductible” policy - the deductible for 2007 must be at least $1,100 for individual coverage or $2,200 for families.

Presidents and their families are entitled to free government health care. Not only do they not have a “high-deductible” policy, they have a no deductible policy - as in FREE.

Yet on the tax returns on George & Laura Bush for 2007 & 2005, they claimed a deduction for an HSA. http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/President

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Since we all know our President obviously wouldn’t cheat on his taxes, I was wondering if anyone knew how the average taxpayer could legally claim this tax deduction & also lower their taxable income while not having to pay this “high-deductible amount” out of their pockets?

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mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 9:19 PM

Maybe he's paying for his own and not taking the government dime for health care? Like we all should be doing! Just because you are entitled to free government health care, it doesn't mean you have to take it. Find out who's covering him and get back to us. Is it from his own pocket(would explain the deduction for an HSA) or is it the tax payers? Seems you only have half a blog here.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 4:51 AM

HMM, just because you are entitled to a tax deduction doesn't mean you have to take it either, but evidently they have no problem taking the governments dime there.

If bush turned down his free government health care, the warm fuzzy feeling from that action would have been spread all over the place. Try starting with whitehouse.org & then get back to us, rather than just throwing out any nonsense like this.

Does anyone have some actual facts about this?

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 5:58 AM

Nonsense? I was asking questions. You were the one stating facts without backing them up. The site you mentioned, whitehouse.org is a really credible site huh? It's a joke site! Just like this blog is a joke.

Here's a headline from your sited source..."President's Remarks Preceding Moment of Compulsory Silence Commemorating Annual Orgy of 9/11 Patrio-Grief"

Doesn't that sound a little bias to you? Find a credible website and as I said before.....get back to us.

Oh....one more thing. Don't ask if anyone has any actual facts about this. It's your blog, you find them!*lol*

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 7:04 AM

Yes, nonsense. You throw out "Maybe....." If all you were going to do was throw out a guess, what was the point of commenting?

Obviously, when I said bush doing anything good would have been spread all over the place, I meant whitehouse.gov.. Amazing that I would have to explain that.

As for my facts without backing them up, perhaps you just missed it, so again:
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/President
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And HSA info is available all over the web, didn't think anyone wouldn't be able to find it themselves. But for you:
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/

So once again I'll ask: "Since we all know our President obviously wouldn’t cheat on his taxes, I was wondering if anyone knew how the average taxpayer could legally claim this tax deduction & also lower their taxable income while not having to pay this “high-deductible amount” out of their pockets?"

If anyone has anything more credible then guesses, please reply.

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 7:22 AM

The president's tax returns do not show if he's covering his own healthcare costs or taking the free coverage availble to him. Cant you even track down the info you build your blogs on? By the way, I said maybe because for one, I dont know for sure and two, you dont seem to know either.

Oh.....and I comment so you wont feel lonely here, as most of your blogs go uncommented on.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 7:42 AM

But on the tax returns it does show the deductions for HSA. Gee, maybe that's why I wrote:

Yet on the tax returns on George & Laura Bush for 2007 & 2005, they claimed a deduction for an HSA. http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/President
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Most people could comprehend that this was what the blog was about.

BTW, I'd rather have no one comment than have someone comment who knows nothing.

So again: if anyone can answer the question, rather than responding & showing they can't answer the question, please do so.

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 9:22 AM

The evidence you presented had nothing to do with the question you posed at the end. That question is the topic of your blog.

You said... "Since we all know our President obviously wouldn’t cheat on his taxes, I was wondering if anyone knew how the average taxpayer could legally claim this tax deduction & also lower their taxable income while not having to pay this “high-deductible amount” out of their pockets?"

I said..."Maybe he's paying for his own and not taking the government dime for health care?"

That's a question you have yet to asnwer and I know one thing for sure, you wont find it on whitehouse.org!

By the way, if you dont like my replies, then delete them. No on will miss them anyway as it's rare anyone reads your unvetted rants. You can't use the delete button without changing your bio paragraph huh? *lol*

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 1:17 PM

Finally you get something right - no one would miss your comments.

So the evidence presented had nothing to do with the question at the end.

Thank you for a perfect example of why I do not delete comments. When someone makes a fool of themselves, why should I be selfish and keep the laughs all to myself?

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 2:09 PM

So you admit that the evidence YOU presented had nothing to do with the question YOU asked at the end!

Thank you for the perfect example of how someone can post a confused rant and still think they make sense. I think you laugh by yourself all the time actually! *lol*

I still don't see you presenting eveidence as to whether the President pays for his own health care or not. You posed the questions, you provide the answers. We'll verify them. See how it works?

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 2:48 PM

DUH! I'll explain this to you as simply as possible so you might understand. I was mocking the stupidity of you saying the evidence had nothing to do with the question. That was the perfect example of how I don't delete comments when people make a fool of themselves. I'm sure you're still confused, so have someone explain it to you.

Once again since you evidently couldn't comprehend it earlier - if bush refused free government health care & instead pays for his own insurance, are you really that naive to think this wouldn't have been yelled from the rooftops to make some political points?

As for the "see how it works" nonsense, so anyone asking a question has to provide the answer to the question they asked. The sad thing is you likely still don't see how dumb that is.

Another good example of why I shouldn't delete posts & keep the laughs all to myself.

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 9:19 PM

Shouted from the rooftops or not, it's your assertion to prove. And yes, when you ask a retorical question like that, it's up to you to provide the evidence. See how it works?*lol*
Now run along and provide evidence to support your idea. You still have time. The library is open late.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2008 | 5:19 AM

OK, Above I said "The sad thing is you likely still don't see how dumb that is." Obviously the "likely" wasn't necessary.

So in a long winded round about, you can't answer the question so instead you are content to look like a fool over & over.

Thanks for another laugh.

See how this works - if I deleted you, anyone else who read this wouldn't be able to get a good laugh at your comments.

Neanderthal read my blog
Jun 28, 2008 | 6:20 AM

Isn't it curious how vague inuendo can escalade into such passion? This usually happens when idle gossip catches up with its point of origin, right DEOP?

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2008 | 8:11 AM

Neander,

I just like yanking this guy's chain. It's so easy to do when he comes in with statements and assertions he can't back up.
Gossip is a good way to describe his unvetted rant.

I'll be back when he fills in the holes in his theory.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2008 | 9:02 AM

The statements in my thread have been backed up with links.
The question in my thread - you can't answer, so the best you can come up with is a guess that you can't back up.

And yet in your mind, you think you're yanking my chain. Hey, if that helps you get through another day in your life, that's great.
In the meantime thanks for another laugh at a worthless post.

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2008 | 2:59 PM

Your theory hinges on whether or not the President pays into an HSA. That's a fact you have yet to prove or disprove. You only made some stupid statement about it being shouted from rooftops. let me use your words against you. If it were true that he WASN'T paying into an HSA and yet still claiming the deduction, don't you think THAT would be shouted as well?

BTW, it's not my place to prove it.

It's YOUR assertion!

Now run along and prove your case! *lol*

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 28, 2008 | 4:44 PM

Thank goodness you never tire of showing what a fool you are. Thanks

Neanderthal read my blog
Jun 29, 2008 | 7:58 AM

What good are references when the "references" are as questionable as the original premise? A good argument could be offered for establishing a socialistic state in the States if the only "references" were "Das Kapital" and/or "Mein Kampf."

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 29, 2008 | 9:35 AM

YEP,
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/President
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&
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/
SURE ARE QUESTIONABLE REFERENCES!

mmustangg read my blog view my photos
Jun 29, 2008 | 11:30 PM

Neander,

It's not worth arguing. He cant answer the question of whether or not the President pays into an HSA. His whole argument is that the President gets free health care and is also claiming a deduction for a HSA. He cant provide proof that he hasn't been paying into an HSA so his whole argument falls apart.

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DEOP

How sad it is when people hide behind the delete button. If someone is rude, obnoxious, or obscene, why not let the world see this? The truth is the delete button is used by some when they disagree or want to hide the facts that shoot down their beliefs. But worse is the chickens that don't allow any comments on their threads.

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