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There is a news story going on ALL morning over here in Tampa..It concerns a plan for the " Sons of Confederate Veterans" to FLY a massive "Confederate Flag" ,, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY,, at the intersection of I-4 and I-75…EVEN the NEWS personel seem to be upset over this with ONE actually posting a BLOG calling for LAWS and REGULATIONS to put a stop to it.. I FIND it facinating that this SELF-proclaimed "EXPERT" on ALL things having to do with the civil war doesn’t SEEM even to KNOW that the Flag in Question ISN’T the "Flag of the Confederacy" at ALL…It IS,, instead,, the Confederate NAVAL Jack..IF it were a SQUARE Flag instead of being rectangular,, it would be ONE of over 100 Confederate BATTLE Flags..The Flags of the Confederacy,, of which there were 3,, look very little like the common conception of the flag in question..

I’ve heard this SAME mistatement of fact on the TELEVISED broadcasts going on ALL morning ..

Now I KNOW that THIS seems to be splitting hairs but ONE would think that those who are entrusted to report on the facts would FIRST take the time to GET THEM RIGHT…

Now..NEAR as I can tell,, the question here is about WHAT the Flag actually represents.. it SEEMS that THAT depends on WHO you Talk to..So far,,I have seen and heard the SOCV members claim that it is ONLY a part of Southern History and is NOT about Slavery EXCLUSIVELY,, I saw a COUPLE of Blacks that said that it means absolutely NOTHING one way or the Other to them ( I suspect,,NOT the opinion of MANY Blacks) ,, the NAACP claiming it’s unfortunate but WHAT can you do and HERE’S where it gets REALLY INTERRESTING,, a couple of Guilt Ridden WHITE Liberals calling for LAWS against what a PRIVATE Property Owner can DO on his OWN Property..

Now look..I KNOW that this can BE a Hot Button for SOME people with passionate arguments being made on BOTH sides and BOTH sides have EVERY right to MAKE those arguments..PRO or CON,, a VERY understandable positon CAN be made either way..

Personally,, I don’t necessarilly agree that the Symbol of the Confederacy NECESSARILLY stands for Slavery and NOTHING else as I have come to LEARN of the richness of the Southern Heritage in it’s OWN right..

I HAVE to WONDER though,, at those who INSIST that the HERITAGE of UNTOLD numbers of Different FOREIGN Cultures MUST be Respected and "Tolerated" and EVEN Accomadated while ALL vestiges of the Confederacy and it’s CULTURE must be STAMPED out in the NAME of Political Correctness..It WASN’T enough for THEM to have these flags removed from Public Buildings EVEN though the TYPICAL Southern STATE Flag,, UNCHANGED since the Civil War,, could be said to be JUST as Racist and for the SAME reasons.. No,, THEY have to INSIST that ALL must FORGET the existance of a CONSIDERABLE piece of American History altogether..

Well,,,..IF you’re GOING to BE that way,, let’s at LEAST be consistant,, But NO,, it SEEMS to escape the Notice of these SAME White Liberals that there are PUBLIC schools in California Flying the MEXICAN Flag ( ANOTHER culture which at ONE time was at WAR with America ) on AMERICAN Flagpoles OVER an American Flag being displayed UPSIDE DOWN..SOMEHOW,, THAT’S OKAY..And if YOU should HAPPEN to complain about THAT,, these SAME Liberals will be QUICK to remind you that THAT is being Somehow Racist..

The THING of it is,,THIS is HISTORY..NOT just SOUTHERN History but PART of the History of America..EVEN the part dealing with Slavery..The PROBLEM is,,

It SEEMS not so much a matter of remembering that history that has SOME people so upset but WHO it IS that’s remembering it..Like the subject of racism in General..We’re constantly being TOLD that we don’t talk about it enough when the FACT of the matter IS that RACISM is ALL we EVER seem to talk about..

But again,, it ONLY counts when somebody like Wright brings it up and HIS brand of talk is the ONLY acceptable way to DISCUSS racism..It SEEMS that to SOMEpeople,, the ONLY acceptable and qualified authority on the subject of RACISM HAS to BE an African American..

The thing here is that we SHOULD ALL remember that we were ONCE a Nation,,AMONG MANY at the time,, that tolerated slavery JUST as we should ALL remember that we are ALSO a nation that abolished it..

To FORGET that is to risk losing an integral part of OUR History and deminishes us ALL..

But,

What REALLY bothers me here is the suggestion of SOME to PASS Laws against what THEY think is Offensive..I FIND it OFFENSIVE that THEY think that ALL must CATER to their whims but I would NEVER call for LAWS to PUNISH them for it..I am NOT here,,NOR is My Country and Government,, to dance to the whims of those who LOOK for reasons to be offended and the WORST possible scenario is to have MY Government TRAMPLE on the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS of others MERELY to APPEASE them…

It is GOOD to discuss these things,, get them OUT in the open,, VOICE your opinions..YOU have THAT right but to THOSE who WISH to quash the Rights of OTHERS which are endowed by OUR Creator and Stipulated IN the Constitution I can ONLY say,,

MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS,, GET A LIFE and LEAVE OUR LIVES,, and OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,,,ALONE..

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candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:15 PM

YOU TELL THEM HAWKEYE...........sad isn't it. Like I've said..the terrorist are doing a good job as we destroy one another right here. I am sick of this sheit excuse the language just like you, MYOB; GET A LIFE is a good solid mentality too bad not too many feel the same way and must always waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa at what dislikes and likes......BAH.......

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:19 PM

Where's Al......shortton......lol..relax it isn't worth the aggravation though HERE something more frustrating is having Obama walking around Florida scared to death BAH......they didn't want to come here now for the sake of votes they are molesting the peace of the State.....not too mention THE ANNOYING CALLS COMING IN....."FROM OBAMA CAMPAIGN......YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME"...FOLLOW by tone of if you like to make a call please hang up and try again. Is never going to stop or slow down until these stupid elections are over and frankly I CAN'T WAIT.

afelton read my blog
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:30 PM

I have learned in the military and also on my job this life lesson. I used to play my music while I work. The fellow workers liked what I played. (Good music from the 70s and 80s) but ONE person complained and my supervisor made me turn it off. Now personally I do have a problem with the Confederate flag but if someone wants to fly it go right ahead.. I wont stop them. I feel that I CANT stop them. I would feel like that ONE person at my work place that complained and caused everyone to be music free. I like the post by the way.

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:31 PM

As always,,Thanks candy,,

And JUST think,,we can start the WHOLE damn thing ALL over again in '09 for the 2010 and 2012 elections....LMAO..

Ahhhhh,, LIFE in America..

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:41 PM

I agree COMPLETELY AF..And Thanks...And I can UNDERSTAND your feelings on the matter..

Hey look..Find me ANYONE that goes through life without offending SOMEONE SOMEWHERE and I'll start a NEW religion..

EVEN Jesus,, who was PERFECT,, managed to offend SOMEONE and we ALL know what happened there..

If we START demanding and GETTING actionable recourse by virtue of SIMPLY being offended,, something that WE ourselves are in control of,,,,MONE of us are safe...Nor will we ever BE safe again..

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 12:57 PM

Amen...

this may sound silly but I thought the confederates lost that war??? sorry I have a headache its a hot day today. Memory lapsing here but hey no at work to complain.

Afelton...I love music any kind of music...NOW THAT WAS THE SONG IN THE late 70's...lol

RandyLoo read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 3:37 PM

The conclusion to his blog that there "ought to be a law against this display" shows exactly what kind of an American he is.....an American that is ignorant of the US Constitution.
That is one of our many problems in our nation. People get upset or offended or feel like something is not good for them should not be tolerated because it is not good for anyone else. We have an encroaching plague in our nation called the Nannies for The Good of All and it is not going to stop.
If I drove around or sat at the mall and looked around I would find thousands of things that annoy me or completely disgust me or many things that offend me yet who am I to declare laws be made to stamp it out?

RandyLoo read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 3:40 PM

...and yes the South did lose the War Between the States...and every Southerner has a right to remember and pay tribute to each father, husband and son that died in battle. They should not be forgotten anymore than any person in the history of this nation that has fought and died bravely.

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 2, 2008 | 5:30 PM

I SAID this before

"EVEN Jesus,, who was PERFECT,, managed to offend SOMEONE and we ALL know what happened there"

What I didn't say was that JESUS was ALSO not immuned to BEING offended as his reaction in Matthew 21:12 CLEARLY shows,

"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold DOVES."

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 7:38 PM

Goodness.....Randyloo...take a deep breath..I happened to like the confederate flag I don't know if it is its colors or what.....I know the hystory and you are right everyone should be entitled to be remembered no matter what.......there are no better groups just like I believe no one is better than anyone else. I am strong believer that every country has its good, bad and ugly....that has become more so in recent events in and around our world today.....NO ONE RACE IS EXEMPT FROM ALL OF THE ABOVE.......I just think its sad that as "American" we are failing when WE SHOULD BE UNITING FOR A CAUSE.........that's my two cents but what the hell do I know in the eyes of a handful bloggers I am nothing....but hey that's their rights to THAT OPINION so I will continue to voice what's in my head. Peace.

FlaBoyJack read my blog view my photos
Jun 14, 2008 | 9:41 AM

Just a comment on patriotism.

Ill challenge my eagle against your Hawk haha
Kidding :)
Nice pic hawkeye

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