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by John_Wilson from Fox 13, Tampa Bay

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The governor's popularity wave may have hit a big speed bump this week when he did something no other governor has done.  He agreed to let the Seminole Indians have Vegas-style gambling in their casinos, except for roulette wheels and similar table games.

So, are we in for all the reported problems of higher divorce rates, high bankruptcy, crime, suicide, and gambling addiction?  Far-right conservatives will be livid but Gov. Crist says he had no choice because the feds were going to do it anyway -- give 'em permission to spin, deal, and roll like Vegas.  And most important of all, by getting in on this now, the state could hit a jackpot of at least $100 million ever year as part of the take.

But this could be the sharpest divide yet between our new governor and the conservative base of the Florida Legislature, including Ronda Storms and Attorney General Bill McCollum, who say he can't do this.  They contend that the Legislature will have the final word.

The Indians already have the broad legal authority, but it's a good bet this will go to court and the state legislature could sue the governor.  As for all the vices associated with gambling, new academic studies have looked at the socio-economic effects in 8 cities, including Las Vegas -- where it's been for 70 years -- along with Memphis, St. Louis, and Peoria. 

They came up with this: more work needs to be done to prove a connection to all those bad things because many other factors in the community come into play.

There seemed to be more personal bankruptcies, but in Biloxi, personal bankruptcies have gone down since the casinos.

Bottom line, it depends on the community, jobs, and tourism which can outweigh the negative impact.  But crime does go up, which means we'll need more cops.

FOX 13's news anchors spent part of their time this week in schools helping teachers get their kids focused on possible careers.  This is where when we balance the potential evil with potential good that comes with money for schools and teachers.  And if the governor can get 95 percent of those millions from gambling for education, then we should do it and make sure this time that lawmakers don't siphon off the money for other things, which they did with the lottery.  And then we make sure we have enough cops to help police it.

Here's the money problem.  The state of Florida is facing massive billion-dollar deficits for the next two years.  We must find other sources of revenue without raising taxes.  Better pay for teachers may not make better teachers but it will give our schools more money to keep good teachers who are on the frontlines of tomorrow.

The impact teachers have on the lives of our children is enormous, and if they really are going to be our leaders of tomorrow, teachers need help.

That's My View.

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JackTrade read my blog view my photos
Nov 17, 2007 | 6:52 AM

I wish I could agree with John on this one, but I have a real problem here. I remember when Florida foolishly voted in the lottery, which was supposed to be for education. What a fraud! The legislature took other maney away from education and gave it to other things. So the Lottery money isn't the big windfall for eduation the voters intended it to be. The Legislature was dishonest and in the pocket of people who profit from the gambling addiction of others.
I would like to see Governor Crist prove his allegation the Feds were going to bring it in anyway.

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 17, 2007 | 7:33 AM

A two sided coin, to be sure. As mentioned previously, "control" is the key word when the millions start rolling into the Capitol. The State Lottery has not been the panacea we all had hoped to see. The monies intended for public schools have been redirected by the legislature to nebulous funding for other projects still unclear.

It may occur to many that the anxieties over organized crime are not nearly as worrysome as what becomes of this "windfall" in Tallahassee. When gambling is illegal, we arrest and prosecute the criminal element responsible. When gambling is legal, there is no longer an organization to be held "trsponsible." Only the State is intrusted to adhere to equitable guide lines and the final disposition of any monetary gains.

It doesn't take a political scientist to surmise what will happen once these funds are in the hands of the bureaucracy. Accountability? None!

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 17, 2007 | 7:45 AM

"Two great minds, one great thought." Jack Trade, when I began my post there were no other comments posted. Then, when I hit "done," I saw your astute comment and realized we had covered basically the same points. "Birds of a feather," I guess. LOL

MoonOwl read my blog view my photos
Nov 17, 2007 | 8:09 AM

I say bring it on! Why should people go to other states to enjoy a bit of high-stakes gambling?

hehehehehe...... I say that and I've never been to Hard Rock.

We're losing tourism dollars every year since September 11th and our new airport policies that treat foreigners like terrorists. They are finding other places to vacation where they aren't made to feel like criminals for wanting to enjoy our country. We need to do something to bring in more dollars. Why not bring in more casino-type games? Those people will spend money on other stuff as well.

Yep, bring it on! We need all the help we can get.
MoonOwl

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 17, 2007 | 8:21 AM

So, if there is a buck in it...just do it, right?

MoonOwl read my blog view my photos
Nov 17, 2007 | 8:53 AM

Absolutely! With our foreign trade deficit as it is, we need all the help we can get!

I remember when it was cheap to live here. Homes were reasonable, taxes were bearable and insurance was affordable. Not any longer.

Why should other states who allow this type of gambling be the only ones to enjoy the benefits? The beach gets old after awhile. Why not 'destination-entertainment'?

MoonOwl

Centauri65 read my blog
Nov 17, 2007 | 9:47 AM

I have no problem with the casinos. The doom and gloom predictions are usually found out to be false. You have to be 21 so you are talking about adults making adult decisions.

Arky51 read my blog view my photos
Nov 17, 2007 | 11:27 AM

What gets me is the memory that folks used to be prosecuted as criminals under Vice Laws for playing the Numbers Game. That was when Organized Crime Syndicates with names like Gambino, Lucchese, Bonanno, Genovese, and Capone had the corner on those games.

Those families have all gone into "legitimate businesses," such as Banking, Credit Cards, and Mortgage Lending. The only thing that has changed regarding stacked gambling games, since then, is that all those named Families have been replaced by the State, and now they only prosecute the Vice they do not control.
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Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Nov 17, 2007 | 5:26 PM

Folks will gamble if they want to whether it's legal or not. The problem lies with the government mis using their cut. What happened to all that lottery money? Why no table games?

I don't gamble and don't have a problem if folks want to. Supposed to be a free country last time I heard.

JackTrade read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 8:46 AM

This is the freest country in the world, the last time I checked. But where is the line between freedom and license? No right is absolute. Is it really a good idea for someone to gamble what little money he has on the astronomical chance he will hit a jackpot? Particularly if he has a family he is responsible to take care of. Gambling is like a drug - people get addicted to it, and lose everything.
The government is not the only entity that misuses money. Individuals and families also do so, to their own detriment.
As I see it, gambling is one of the most selfish and wasteful things that can be done with money.

JackTrade read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 8:48 AM

This is the freest country in the world, the last time I checked. But where is the line between freedom and license? No right is absolute. Is it really a good idea for someone to gamble what little money he has on the astronomical chance he will hit a jackpot? Particularly if he has a family he is responsible to take care of. Gambling is like a drug - people get addicted to it, and lose everything.
The government is not the only entity that misuses money. Individuals and families also do so, to their own detriment.
As I see it, gambling is one of the most selfish, irresponsible and wasteful things that can be done with money.

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 7:44 AM

I would not presume to make legalized gambling a moral issue, although I understand the motives for those that do. As I mentioned before, it is what happens to the monetary gains that come into question. If there are definite laws determining where the funds must be used, okay! But there are none of which I am aware.

Of course, the Paramutual boys are upset because this would cut into their tidy profit arrangements with the State and who knows how many Tallahassee politicians are "in on" these "arrangements." Neither pro's nor con's ahould let this worry them just yet. This is a "hot potato" that will end up in the courts very soon.

Frankly, I am disappointed in the manner which the Governor handled this "first stage." It will guarantee prolonged litigation that could have been avoided.

criesenbeck read my blog view my photos
Nov 20, 2007 | 2:26 PM

Whether we like it or not, IT was GONNA happen either way... at least since Christ signed the papers Florida will be able to get something out of it!!The FEDS already said they were gonna give "The Seminoles" The go ahead ....... just not at the moment (still a lot of paperwork to go through).....so regardless if he signed or not THEY (The Seminoles) would have GOTTEN THEIR WAY !!!

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 21, 2007 | 6:53 AM

Now, it is apparant that the Federal Government intends to allow Veas style gambling in the Seminole Indian Casinos with or without involvement by Florida. Reservation lands fall under Federal control, so this is not a contestable decision.

That means Florida will have no share in the profits if the State/Seminole agreement isn't signed and passed by November 30. The Gov. Chris bill is now pending in the Florida Suprme Court for a final ruling.

My question here is: why would the Seminole Indians wish to share profits with the State when they could retain all the profits for themselves (by Federal law)?

RICKJOHNSON read my blog view my photos
Nov 21, 2007 | 12:52 PM

I am going to gamble my life savings away now. The same people who gamble, will gamble whether it is legal or not, so why not cash in?

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 21, 2007 | 6:39 PM

R.J, thanks so much for that profound input on what you will do with your "life savings." Excatly what do you intend to "cash in on," your Federal college loans? Happy Thanksgiving Day.

RICKJOHNSON read my blog view my photos
Nov 22, 2007 | 5:33 AM

Actually Neanderthal, I never had financial aid! I worked two jobs throughout college and paid as I went. Now, I have two cars, I have no debt, I own a successful business, and I have money in the bank. As far as gambling, it is not my cup of tea, but I don't have any problem with it.

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 22, 2007 | 6:46 AM

Very commendable indeed RJ. There is no objection to gambling from this quarter either, only the bureaucrats that will be "directing" the proceeds gained from it. If there were strict guidlines in the Legislature for the distribution of these funds, I would be the first in favor of State wide casinos. It appears you may have much for which to be thanful on this Holiday.

RICKJOHNSON read my blog view my photos
Nov 22, 2007 | 6:54 AM

I work on Holiday's, I am working right now, but I love my job! I wish for everyone to have a safe and happy holiday, I am working, but I refuse to be unhappy. I will retire young, and when I was young, I traveled with my family to South America many times, 7 times to Argentina, a few times to Brasil or Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay, also I have been to Mexico, Jamaica, The Bahamas, all as a kid. I have been very fortunate, and I am very grateful. I haven't taken a day off work in over a year. I went to Canada last year in September, but it is my time to work, and get towards my goal of early retirement. Have a great day, I am.

Neanderthal read my blog
Nov 24, 2007 | 8:32 AM

If we may return to the subject at hand, I may have an answer to my own question on the Seminole's motives for "...sharing profits with the State..." If the Seminole Indians were granted "exclusive franchise" for "full" gambling privilages, it makes perfect sense. But once again, that opens a whole new angle for litigation, doesn't it?

The Federal govenrnment will probably have some say in monitoring the funds realized by the State but to what extent, who knows?

That brings to mind a second question. Who will be responsible for creating this "monitoring?" If left to the State, the prospects don't look very encouraging, do they?

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