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Tom Feeney's Plug For NASA ........
May 20, 2008 | 6:09 PM
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Tom Feeney's plug for NASA and additional funds as the shuttle program winds down was this : It is important that we keep up funding to maintain the high ground as the Chinese Generals are taught that without it they cannot pursue their country's global goals. Sound like a sound story ? This one's comming straight from a Republican's mouth.  Is it the whole truth, partial truth, or some misrepresentation of a fact or facts to sell an additional earmark. As it stands now there is a 3-5 tear gap between shuttle programs, the old and the new. Do you believe that NASA itself is vital to National Security ? While I understand the need for the military to maintain the high ground, and it is a sound and time proven fact, Tom Feeney didn't exactly explain NASA's part. It wasn't a NASA missile that shot down the spy satelite that otherwise would have impacted earth. The Air Force handled that one. For all the vaunted technology, it wasn't a NASA shuttle that made repairing a spy satellite practicle.  It isn't NASA's spy satellites that monitor the Chinese, they are the Air Forces. The US Air Force opperates a space program of their own, and if you were going to spend more money under the guise of National Security, wouldn't that money be better spent with the Air Force ?  The threat of some of the Air Forces and Navy's missiles sounds like a logical counter. What big stick does NASA carry ?

For the record, I'm a Republican. I'm just not terribly big on any politicians line of BS !  I guess Feeney didn't think Nelson- Dem.   could sell it on his own . 

Any thoughts on this ?

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Abunai read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 9:34 AM

Thats right.. the Air Force handled it thanks to the help in reasearch and development between DoD, and NASA!

We have been sharing and trading technology with Aerospace since the 50s and actually before that when Germany was working on its rocket programs in WWI.
FloridaBrit read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 9:41 AM

AS someone who is in Feeneys District- He has been a TOTAL let down.
from taking Abramoffs golfing trips, to doing absolutly NOTHING for his constituents !
Come next election time, im voting for whoever is running opposite Feeney !
Anyone !!
Abunai read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:47 AM

Hey did ya see the news on the Democrats in Main who are putting in their budget the job of Nuke inspector. That position has not been required for years! and yet they still have plant inspectors on the payroll doing NOTHING!
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 5:14 PM

I haven't seen that one yet, any article in particular it was in, sounds like an intresting read. For all practicle purposes the US didn't have any real rocket program until the war ended and the scramble to get the German scientists before the Russians did. During the Johnson administraton there was the MOL Project a largely paper project ( much like some of the German Wonder Weapons ) to have astronauts inhabit an orbiting space station to conduct radio and photographic spy missions. The astronauts were selected and trained, but unless it happened on the Space-Lab, it never was. The current Space Shuttle is of little value or use other than going to the space station. It hasn't the range, endurance or electrical generating capacity to do much of anything else. A fact pointed out repeatedly before the first one finally got off the drawing board.
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Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 5:25 PM

Feeney like Nelson wants to extend the service life of the current program until the replacement is ready to launch. It is b oth and ignorant and stupid suggestion. If anyone recalls the entire fleet was grounded 4-5 years ago to repair thousands of hairline cracks in the shuttle's fuel delivery lines. They were welded as the lines could not be removed and replaced. The cracks are the result of stress and metal fatigue. Typical standard for repairing stress related cracks in metal is to stop-drill the crack and rivet or weld a patch over it. It isn't practicle in a fuel delivery line. The reasons for the origbinal problems are still there. NASA's and the politician's ignorance of the first fundimental rule of flight, a thorough inspection of all the craft's exterior and control surfaces, has already killed two flight crews !
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Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 5:32 PM

Having watched the first crew's demise and the graphic pictures of the second crews remains, I don't particularly care to watch them kill more any more astronauts. Also over the years there have also been issues with cracked insulation in the wire bundles and harnesses, again stress and age related. The Shuttle is in no way,shape or form vital to National Security. Having spent 16 yrs. in aircraft, I've seen plenty of the type problems that they are not talking about. The political mirror and smoke show is for those that haven't a clue. Abunai are you letting them take you in ?
Abunai read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 7:05 PM

Well like any program that involves flight, there is a very ugly learning curve for almost any platform ever developed. From fixed wing, to helos, to the Marines and their Osphrey.
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 7:20 PM

Neither crew died as a result of a learning curve. Ignorance of the first fundimental rule and some seriously flawed gambling. The tile issue was well know and an emergency repair kit was actually designed and built. The logic, it weight takes away from some payload capability and what are the odds ? The very fact that the a repair kit was designed and space allocated originally voids the final logic. Same goes for installing a camera on the space station to examine the entire exterior. Keeping the shuttle aloft after it's pre-determined service life is pork-barrel earmark spending at it's finest. The National Security smoke arguement is about as seriously flawed as most of DC's fine craftmanship !
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 9:02 PM

Well, the Chinese have a fledgling space program at best, but they have already demonstrated the technology to blast an orbiting satellite into oblivion. I do not believe the US has that capability yet.

If they can hit a small satellite and destroy it on the first attempt, how hard would it be to hit the enormous space station that they have no part in?

NASA is good for exploration of space, and a lot of good has come from scientific experiments that were completed in space.

As for any military value, there is none.
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 9:12 PM

We have that capability Frank. The two current means are a ship mounted and launched rocket and one delivered by an F-15 at maximum service ceiling. I just thought Feeney's comment was close to ignorant, and a misrepresentation of fact. In order to gain the high ground one has to have the financial means to finance the te3chnology and developement. Feeney says we need to invest more money in NASA to stay ahead. Could a poorly considered trade agreement with China amoung other things have given them the financial means to challenge us ?
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 9:14 PM

Thanks for the comments Frank !
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:00 PM

Yes, the more money we give to China in the form of buying thier cheap crap, brings them ever closer to getting the means to destroy us.

We are commiting suicide.
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:02 PM

Making the communists rich, while they plot our destruction.
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:03 PM

On our money.
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 10:06 PM

I find it intresting that a politician asks for additional money to counter a threat previous politicians financed through their ignorant, short-sighted, bungling bo-bo ways !
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:31 PM

More than interesting Meb. One of those things that make you wonder WTF?

We are going to hell in a hand basket.
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 10:33 PM

I guess Obama will fix things though...........

LMFAO!!!!!!!
Meb452m read my blog
May 21, 2008 | 10:38 PM

As stated previously on another post, Obama's already put his " two cents " in on world politics, and at two cents I believe it's way overpriced !
DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 12:10 AM

Well, a penny is worthless, and now costs more to produce than the actual value of the coin.

His two cents will cost us more than three cents, and if he is elected, we should really start counting those pennies.

We will soon have to start forking them over to the new welfare plans, that he and Hillary both are envisioning......
PegasusWing read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 4:20 PM

The space program and military weapons are the two areas in which we are still the best.
When Bush ordered the military to shoot down that satellite, he took weapons into space which was against treaties.
That one will come back and bite us in the Aush.
Our dollars are worthless in world trade, so hopefully, foreign countries will stop accepting them, or demand more for their junk.
Then Made in USA things will be able to compete, so that will boost the economy.
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