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Enviromentalists and Their Liberal Lackeys......
Jun 24, 2008 | 9:01 PM
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Enviromentalists and their liberal lackeys, are they always right ? I thought this example might just make a fine case in point. Ever hear of the Crystal River Nuclear Power Plant ? The enviromentalists fought it for almost a decade before construction was started. Late last year, the Orlando Sentinel ran an article that Florida Power was considering shutting the plant down. This wasn't due to accidents, but the fact that it was an old plant, less efficient, and with greater maintainence costs. Did the enviromentalists cheer ? No, as a matter of fact they threatened to sue, sue to KEEP a nuclear plant open. This despite the fact that previously they had sued to halt construction. Strange twist of fate ? WAS it because nuclear plants emmitt little to no greenhouse gasses ? Was it because people benefit from cheaper electricity ? Well not exactly. The enviromentalists are not worried about spent fuel, a China- Syndrome, or a Chernobyl.

The enviromentalists are worried about the manatee. Seems the manatees have become accustomed to wintering near the warm  water discharge tubes. The enviromentalists are worried that denied that the manatees will suffer.

Remember the Alaskan Pipeline and the enviromental conscerns, permafrost and the caribou were the top two. The damage to the permafrost has been monitored and is negligable. The caribou can still migrate. The caribou seem to prefer wintering near the pipeline as a matter of fact. The oil has to be heated to flow through the pipeline and that warms the close surrounding air , to their benefit and their numbers seem to have increased.  Amagine that. I kinda wonder if BP said we need to shut the line down, if the enviromentalists would sue ?

Any thoughts ?
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shadows read my blog
Jun 25, 2008 | 7:06 AM

Have you read or heard about the billion dollar plus "deal" for the State of Florida to purchase land presently used to grow sugar cane?

I guess that Charlie Crist must be one of those environmentalist liberals since he supported the deal.
Abunai read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 8:31 AM

Meb... you know how it goes. Democrats (libs) hate to see any solutions be put into place, as they live for having issues around. God forbid we solve any problems.. then what would we talk about? Besides, a solution would mean we made some kind of decission and that is dangerously close to a core position, and the wiggle room would be gone. Can't have that!

Its a better problem than NY is having where they not only shut down the plants but the libs drilled holes in the reactors so to never allow the plant to come back online. Now we have an energy crisis, and people are actually calling for more nukes!

So much for liberal forward thinking, but I bet somehow... its Bush's fault.
Gammies61 read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 9:19 AM

Good post Meb.

Who was crazy enough to drill holes in the reactors? Some people are stupid.
SushiLover read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 9:53 AM

Growing sugar cane is a splendid idea.. Thats how Brazil makes their ethanol... Sugar Cane is much cheaper to refine into fuel than Corn.!
shadows read my blog
Jun 25, 2008 | 12:57 PM

OK Abunai, I will say it.....it's Bush's fault.

SushiLover, that's not exactly what Crist has in mind. He actually will limit sugar cane growth to about six more years according to the impression that I got.
Meb452m read my blog
Jun 25, 2008 | 7:37 PM

Shadows, I'm not aware of Crist's plan, however I've heard as part of the Everglad's restoration plan, that State and Federal money was allocated to buy property that ajoined Lake Okeechobee to cut down on phosphates from fertilizer. That lake happens to be the largest source of drinkable freshwater for South Florida as well. I have seen some of the projects that the Florida AG Commissioner, Charles Bronson, is involved with in ethanol production. Four words : worthy and well done, come to mind. Reasearch on Sweet Sorgrum is also being conducted for ethanol production, and it has two big advantages over everything else. First it will not effect food prices and second it releases water in the process where everything else requires additional water. Abunai, right you are ! Gammies and Sushi, thanks for your comments as well !
Gammies61 read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 6:39 AM

I didn't realize they could use sugar cane. Do you think this will help bring down the price of corn?
Abunai read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 10:03 AM

SushiLover.. To add to Brazil actually is energy independent because of the combination of ethanol, and the HUGE oil reserves they have discovered off their coast!

The hypocracy of the enviromentalist AGAIN! I guess fighting for mother earth stops at the American shoreline! Brazil mowed down just about all their rain forrests to make room for all that sugar cane and nothing is mentioned of it! The offshore oil they have goes unmentioned as well.

Even Chavez now giving China the lease off of Florida, and currently preparing to SLANT DRILL oil right out from under our sovern nation, and NOBODY wants to say anything?
Gammies61 read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 10:08 AM

Chavez needs his head placed on a platter. JMO
Sageman read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 11:02 AM

LOL again a great example of how most republicans are too ignorant to see gray, they only see black and white.

The mowing down of Brazil's forests was decried by environmentalists for years. Republicans repeatedly blocked any effort for the U.S. Government to chastised them for it.

Chavez is an idiot and I will say it again, if you buy Chinese products, don't whine here about the Chinese. One moment you're complaining that boycotting Chinese products is bad then you're complaining that the Chinese can't be trusted. Please shut up till you make up your mind. If they can't be trusted then why give our money to them, why send our jobs to China? You voted the people in power who allowed this to happen. Stop whining about Democrats and realize this is all about money and the Republicans allowed and in many cases endorsed this behavior.

We are no longer the numero uno in the business world, we aren't going to get oil at special rate or next to nothing anymore. It was the arrogance of big oil companies and the toe lapping republicans who cozied up to them that has caused our current oil crisis.

Again it's easier to find someone else to blame than to look into your own house, so again it's the libtards and dumbocrats to blame. I think if I were you, I would look at the rapeublicans. Seems an appropriate play on words to me.
Abunai read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 12:43 PM

lol! Sageman says stop whining about Democrats then continues onto his daily bashing of Conservatives... Yea, do as I say, not as I do.. such a good liberal.

Toe lapping and cozing up to big oil? I believe it was the Democrat Gov. of NY that physically destroyed Nuke plants to NEVER operate again. WHO was pushing Kyoto? The buisness world will equal out when Democrats deregulate industry here, and we don't have to operate overseas! Instead of crying about cheaper goods, maybe you libs could relax the ridiculous regs, so we could do it here as well!

I understand your frustration Sageman when facts end up getting in the way of the alternative reality that you contiue to offer here.
shadows read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 4:15 PM

Meb452m, I agree with the idea of using sugarcane to produce ethanol. I'm not an expert, but I believe that I also read that the result is cleaner than ethanol produced from corn and as you stated it will not affect food prices as much. There are some problems however with sugarcane availability.

Although the following link is for a blog, it contains a good amount of information about the Florida deal and the topic of sugarcane.

http://www.discovery.org/blogs/discoveryblog/2008/06/fl
orida_gov_crists_sugar_deal_1.php
Sageman read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 9:23 PM

Abunai - I don't consider myself a liberal, I think it's a blanket insult for many here when they see someone that doesn't agree with their point of view.

I think certain regulations are necessary though just because their are to many bad people out there that don't care about anything but the dollar. What you are saying is support corporations and say good bye to the little man. That's a great solution for many but it's sad that I have to point out the only working class people I know who make over $100k are those who run their own business. Eliminate them and you got everyone in the middle and lower income brackets. Is that what you think the American Dream is?
Meb452m read my blog
Jun 27, 2008 | 8:19 PM

Shadows, look and see if you can find sweet sorgrum mentioned for ethanol production. It is superior to sugar cane or corn and will not effect the price of a staple food product. That is a fact ! Sageman why you believe an enviromental statement from the American goverment would effect what Brazil does with IT'S RAINFOREST is beyond comprehension. For the record, Brazil is a soveriegn nation that is not binded by anything our GOVERMENT or the REPUBLICANS SAY. Your precious Democrats could have written and sent their own letter of their own accord and it would still have made NO difference ! Wait it would have some impact, your precious Democrats would have killed some more trees to have written their worthless non-binding statements on more wasted paper !
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