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Boot camp gaurds arrested? Why don't the parents take some responsibility?
Nov 29, 2006 | 1:16 AM
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I think that this Blog might offend some people. Everyone who has watched the news lately has seen that the gaurds at the military style boot camp have been arrested for manslaughter. The news seems to think that this event should have never happened and that the kid in question in the first place did not do anything wrong. Um, Hello....wasn't he there for a reason. Maybe he did have a problem running the course or whatever, but tell me how the gaurds are suppose to know that. That would be a medical problem that the gaurds are not aloud to ask about. Not only that, but the boot camp was an alternative to prison. The boy and his family would have had to choose the boot camp instead. That would greatly shorten the amount of time that he would have spent behind bars. So do I think the gaurds over did it? Absolutly. They went overboard with the use of force, but the media is making it sound like the guards should not have used force in the first place. Do people actually think that inmates do not fake some sort of illness? I mean has anyone asked the guards how many times someone has tried to act like they can not continue simply because they did not want to continue. Does anyone even know the purpose of the boot camp style of jail in the first place? Even without all of that, this event, the whole episode could have been prevent long before he was even sent there. That is where I think the parents should take some of the responsibility for thier child. Why did thier child end up in the boot camp in the first place. I know that kids do not just volunteer now a days to go to jail and try the boot camp system out. He had to have done something wrong to get there. In closing, yes the gaurds did wrong and they are going to be punished for it. It could have been prevented in many diffrent ways. Now the boot camp method of rehibilitation is over in Florida. If you have the time and want to look up that stats, look how many people went through the boot camp and then came back to jail compared to the everyday offender that chooses to go to jail, get out, just to come back. I think that it is a shame to have gotten rid of the program. Better training would have been a better idea.
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photobugbecca read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 4:58 AM

It seems that when kids get into trouble parents fail to take responsibility,wanting it "fixed" by society. I know I'm saddened to see the rehabilitation boot camps closed down. They did work. I agree, better training for the guards would have been the best solution and I too feel that the guards and nurse were definitely wrong, yet as you stated...if the teen hadn't done anything wrong, he wouldn't have been sent there.
LORD_GEKKO read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 5:05 AM

Bravo Mikey Bravo.I thought I was the only one who felt this way.The worl is a better place without this thug
Brattyangel view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 11:29 AM

WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! Lord Gekko, because this child did a wrong that landed him in the bootcamp, that gives someone (much more, 7 of them?) to put their hands on this child and smoother him to death? And the childs actions gives you the right to call him a thug?

I agree, the child should have been controlled at ground level(the parents), but when that fails and children are forced into whatever system of rehabilitation, isn't it the job of the caretaker of that child to treat them like their parents should or better? I believe in discipline, i'll be the first one to admit it...but not to the point that a child is harmed. As far as i see it, the parents are as guilty as the guards for allowing him to get so out of control that he had to be put there in the first place. Maybe they should take a look at themselves and take some of the blame for his death?....I THINK SO!

And as for you calling him a thug, did you know him?....did you know his background?...did you know ANYTHING that would give you the right to call him any name. That is what is wrong with our society....people don't take the time anymore to nurture our children, teach them right from wrong, teach them strong morals. All we do is let them run wild, do whatever they want and then when something goes wrong, we either scream at them, beat them, or worse yet, put them in the hands of others that are no better.

We need to wake up and take a look at our world and fix what is wrong here and not worry about somebody else's world. Have a good day!!!
kalishak
Nov 29, 2006 | 1:34 PM

It takes a very small person with a very small mind to make such a comment regarding the untimely death of a CHILD. I get sick to my stomach when I hear such comments. It makes me sick to hear people talk about others being held accountable for their actions yet they take absolutely no time to really look at themselves. The comments made regarding this young man and his family, the screen name of the original blogger and the idiotic narrow minded comments of "THE LORD" are all evidence to me that neither is really willing to make the world better by for changing the person in the mirror. They appear to be divisive, narrow minded, intolerant and ignorant people that refuse to consider that the "SEVEN" police officer are guilty of precisely what they accuse the dead boy of "BEING IRRESPONSIBLE THUGS" that devalued the life of the young man they had an obligation to protect.
Brattyangel view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 1:52 PM

AMEN kalishak!....glad to see someone has some sense in this world!
JPM34442 read my blog
Nov 29, 2006 | 3:49 PM

Why is it I wonder, that the photograph of the 14 year old "child" shown on all the news networks is obviously of a much younger juvenile. I saw one time, what was most likely a booking photo that was much more likely to be what he looked like ( about 6 foot tall and 190 pounds MOL.} Also I noted in the video, the "child" appeared to be nearly as tall as the guards.

It makes me sick to think that good men and women who were doing a thankless job trying to provide adult supervision ( A parental duty I thought, silly me) to an out of control delinquent who was well on his way to a life of crime. Where was Momma during the time it took for the "child" to amass a record serious enough to warrant Boot Camp as punishment. Rarely does a J D get sent there for a first offence.

I agree we are probably beter off without him.
Brattyangel view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 6:19 PM

Do any of you know anything about this child, any information that would have led him to this crime he committed that put him in the bootcamp. Do we know about his homelife....his parents(who are obviously the root of the problem). How can any of you justify what these 7 ADULT MALES did to this child. Whether the kid was right or wrong, he DID NOT deserve to be suffocated by the so called "protectors" of our youth within that program or any other program provided for children that are out of control. Again, here is another narrow minded individual that ASSUMES that the child was wrong and deserved what he got from his caretakers there at the camp. I can't believe that I live in a society where there are so many people that feel a child should be tortured and gotten rid of in hopes that it will make our little world a better place. Children DO NOT deserve this type of treatment no matter what they have done. They deserve to be taught the RIGHT way to do thing, supervised and paid attention to.

Anyone of you that can lay your head down a night and sleep with the belief that the child got what he deserved? You all deserve to be in the same catagory with the officers being charged. PFFFFTTT!....shallow thinking....is this what our world has come to? And MURDERING a child is NOT adult supervision in my book...i don't know about the rest of you..........
yellowdog read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 7:45 PM

Would you have referred to this lad as a "thug" if he had been a blond haired - blue eyed darling? I think not. We have a serious social problem in this country which has festered for 50 years - what hope does a disadvantaged child have in this country. When your society consists of single family homes, the majority of your role models in prison or on probation and
yellowdog read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 7:46 PM

Would you have referred to this lad as a "thug" if he had been a blond haired - blue eyed darling? I think not. We have a serious social problem in this country which has festered for 50 years - what hope does a disadvantaged child have in this country. When your society consists of single family homes, the majority of your role models in prison or on probation and
yellowdog read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 7:47 PM

Would you have referred to this lad as a "thug" if he had been a blond haired - blue eyed darling? I think not. We have a serious social problem in this country which has festered for 50 years - what hope does a disadvantaged child have in this country. When your society consists of single family homes, the majority of your role models in prison or on probation and
LORD_GEKKO read my blog view my photos
Nov 29, 2006 | 10:44 PM

Its funny that people want to have children charged as adults till something like this happens.I said before they should expand the death penalty to fit lesser crimes...guess "THE LORD" heard me.
Mikeyaintskerd read my blog
Nov 30, 2006 | 12:23 AM

It seems to me that Kalishak did not get the point of the blog in the first place. I agree that the gaurds where wrong. They need to get punished. The whole point was, it could have been avoided before he got there. So try to understand before you think I am narrow minded. I mean to make that statement due to my screen name, and I am narrow minded. Please. Oh and one last thing I forgot to add in the beginning, since the parent had to agree for this child to go into the boot camp in the first place, and this incident happened, should they really have the right to sue for 40 million? I mean nothing can replace a child, but if you put them in a situation for harm, why should you be rewarded. I am not glad the child died. It was not right. I do not know the circumstances that put him in the legal system in the first place. There are plenty of under privledged children in single parent families that are not in the legal system. I think it would be great if something could be done to keep them all out of the legal system.
Brattyangel view my photos
Nov 30, 2006 | 4:45 AM

Thank you Mikey for expanding your original blog...and you are right, as I said, the parents should take some of theblame for what has happened to this child, had they been the loving, caring parents that ALL children deserve, this child probably wouldn't have ended up where he was and where he is now. I don't think it's right for the parents to be able to sue for that amount of money, the need to take some blame for his death.

And GEKKO?...as far as i see, you are the only narrow minded person in this conversation. Again, you make a reference to the death penalty, obviously you STILL believe this children deserved what he got, REGARDLESS of his age....he was a CHILD for God's sake. Regardless of what he did, he DID NOT deserve to have 7 GROWN men kill him. Expand your mind man......and being charged as adults should depend on the crime, had this boy killed someone, he would not have been in a boot camp, i can tell you that.
LORD_GEKKO read my blog view my photos
Nov 30, 2006 | 5:28 AM

Look statistics show that this kid was going to be a drain o society for the rest of his life fathering unwanted kids.Taking in welfare, food stamps, getting arrested.I dont have a narrow mind,just a realistic way of thinking.Trust me my mind couldnt expand much more.
kalishak
Nov 30, 2006 | 5:47 AM

Mikey you are right, I didn't get the intention of your original blog. I commented about your screen name because there are many ways we communicate. Ovbviously, I got a completedly different message from your screen name than you ever intended. However because we are not communicating in person and I don't know you, my interpretation of your name is all I had to go with and it was my interpretation of "aintskerd" that lead me to my conclusion. To me your name is representing a person with a "THUGGISH" mentality, your response to my entry would indicate that you feel I am wrong, because I don't know you, I will grant you the benefit of doubt. I just want to let you know that young impressionable males could interpret your screen name the same way I did, is that your intent? Would a responsible parent take that name? You obviously believe in personal responsibility, My question: Is your screen name accurately representing the person? Are you being responsible?


GEKKO: Yes the "The Lord" is hearing you. So remember when you get the chance to address him in person (hopefully not for many years, a privilege this young man will never get) he WILL know what is in YOUR HEART!!
Hawkeye read my blog
Nov 30, 2006 | 6:14 AM

Gekk, You are mistaken if you think that people are stupid and can’t put two and two together.
I rightfully and factually point out that Foley, who I said is despicable AND should be JAILED many times, NEVER physically abused a 16 year old WHITE page and you call ME a RACIST PEDIPHILE. Even to the point of writing a criminally slanderous poeting to that effect.
Then you CHJEER the unfortunate killing of a 14 year old BLACK kid .
Who’s the real Racist here……..
Hawkeye read my blog
Nov 30, 2006 | 6:20 AM

Maybe your mail ordered certificate of ordination just didn't kick in yet...
yellowdog read my blog view my photos
Nov 30, 2006 | 6:33 AM

Bettyangel - Why do you assume that the parents are NOT "loving, caring parents"/ I have read nothing to indicate that they weren't.
JPM- To state that we are "better off without him" shows the shallowness of your heart. How could any adult say such a thing?
Gekko - The second greatest commandment is "love your neighbor as yourself". It is apparent that your heart is filled with hate, most likely toward yourself. I hope you are able to love yourself one day so you are capable of loving others.
If this child had been a blond haired- blue eyed 14 year old I doubt JPM or Gekko or the other biggots of the world would have the same opinion of his worthlessness to society.
ZunePlayer read my blog view my photos
Nov 30, 2006 | 8:46 AM

The Parents didn't burtally murder their son. The boy was under the protection of the department of corrections, that protection does not mean brutal beatings.

His was a kid for God sake not a twenty year old felon, there was hope in turning his life around. That hope was dashed when the guards killed him in cold blood.
Brattyangel view my photos
Nov 30, 2006 | 10:20 AM

Hey Yellowdog? first off, the MAJORITY of children do no go off the deep end when the have parents that teach them right from wrong and care about them. I have a child that is a pain in the butt, she's 24 and it's been heck raising her, but she never went out and got into any trouble nor is she a druggie or alcoholic. Those behaviors are not learned from parents that truly care for and spend time QUALITY time with. So logic comes into play here, not statistics....each and EVERYONE of us is a statistic in the country in one way or another. But I cannot tolerate CHILD haters...God didn't put them here to be brutilized by such "THUGS" as those 7.

I've said my peace, we could go on all day with this, even days, but it won't bring that child back. Have a good day everyone.....
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I am a 25 year old, married, Boilermaker. I have a one year old son. I have been out of the blogging situation lately and have decided to come back and give my two cents every chance I get.

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