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I AGREE WITH THIS TO SOME POINT BUT WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS NEW LAW TODAY??

WASHINGTON - The House Wednesday passed what could become the first major federal gun control law in over a decade, spurred by the Virginia Tech campus killings and buttressed by National Rifle Association help.

The bill, which was passed on a voice vote, would improve state reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System to stop gun purchases by people, including criminals and those adjudicated as mentally ill, who are prohibited from possessing firearms.

Seung-Hui Cho, who in April killed 32 students and faculty at Virginia Tech before taking his own life, had been ordered to undergo outpatient mental health treatment and should have been barred from buying two guns he used in the rampage. But the state of Virginia had never forwarded this information to the national background check system.

If it moves through the Senate and is signed into law by the president, the bill would be the most important gun control act since Congress banned some assault weapons in 1994, the last year Democrats controlled the House. In 1996, Congress added people convicted of domestic violence to the list of those banned from purchasing firearms.

The bill was the outcome of weeks of negotiations between Rep. John Dingell  D-Mich., the most senior member of the House and a strong supporter of gun rights, and the NRA, and in turn, with Rep. Carolyn McCarthy  D-N.Y., a leading gun-control advocate.

"This is good policy that will save lives," McCarthy said.

The NRA insisted that it was not a "gun control" bill because it does not disqualify anyone currently able to legally purchase a firearm.

The NRA has always supported the NICS, said the organization's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre. "We've always been vigilant about protecting the rights of law-abiding citizens to purchase guns, and equally vigilant about keeping the guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally defective and people who shouldn't have them."

Under a gun control act that passed in 1968, the year Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. were killed, people barred from buying guns include those convicted of a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, illegal drug users, those courts find to be mentally disabled, and illegal immigrants.

The legislation approved Wednesday would require states to automate and share disqualifying records with the FBI's NICS database. The bill also provides $250 million a year over the next three years to help states meet those goals and imposes penalties, including cuts in federal grants under an anti-crime law, to those states that fail to meet benchmarks for automating their systems and supplying information to the NICS.

President Bush ordered to investigate the Virginia Tech shootings prepared to make recommendations on ways the federal government can prevent such tragedies.

Also on Wednesday, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said that in ordering state executive branch agencies to upgrade background check reporting last month he had found that Virginia was one of only 22 states reporting any mental health information to the NICS. Kaine, a Democrat, said the House bill was "significant action to honor the memories of the victims who lost their lives at Virginia Tech."

The NRA did win some concessions in negotiating the final product.

It would automatically restore the purchasing rights of veterans who were diagnosed with mental problems as part of the process of obtaining disability benefits. LaPierre said the Clinton administration put about 80,000 such veterans into the background check system.

It also outlines an appeals process for those who feel they have been wrongfully included in the system and ensures that funds allocated to improve the NICS are not used for other gun control purposes.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said his group supported the legislation and he hoped Congress would go a step further and extend background checks to all gun sales, not just those licensed dealers covered by current law.

Carthy, in an emotional speech, said that "this has been a long, long journey for me." She ran for Congress on a gun control agenda after her husband was gunned down on a Long Island commuter train in 1993.

 

I truly believe that if this law happened just 2 months ago, all those wonderful kids at Virginia Tech would still be alive today. Nobody should be able to get a gun if they have any kind of medical condition like that kid had.  Let me know what you all think about this new law

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME ON HERE, DON'T WORRY I WILL NOT DELETE NOTHING THIS TIME I PROMISE   ( LOL )

 

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lharris86 read my blog view my photos
Jun 13, 2007 | 12:18 PM

I think the law would be great. The only thing is people will still find ways of getting ahold of guns and other weapons. Just like certain drugs being illegal and people still getting it. But they should still pass the law. It would be great to make it more difficult for crazy people to get possesion of guns.

DVS11965 read my blog view my photos
Jun 13, 2007 | 1:34 PM

Laws only make it harder for honest people to get weaponds to defend themselves.

Criminals will get a gun whenever they want. They don't buy them wholesale or retail, they get them from a trunk.

di8828 read my blog view my photos
Jun 13, 2007 | 2:54 PM

Well that was a waste...of tax payers money...time spent to come up with this and to make it active...the paper it was written on!

Criminals can easily purchase what ever they want and need for the streets and this law wouldn't come close to doing anything but adding something different in a different worded action with guns and gun control...face it...until we can control illegal sells of guns from the streets it's just writting on a piece of paper!

GrayWolfNOrlando read my blog view my photos
Jun 13, 2007 | 7:16 PM

If the Judicial System would start executing these criminals that go out and commit murder, a lot of this crap wouldn't be going on today. Give these people a 2 or 3 appeals and then execute them if nothing is over turned. All these criminals are doing is taking up space in prisons and living off of our tax money. I'm all for capital punishment and I believe that public hanging should be brought back. Then you would get these clowns yelling cruel & unusual punishment and I say what about their victims. I say start executing and maybe some of this nonsense will come to a halt.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Jun 13, 2007 | 7:17 PM

If the NRA is satisfied with it, so am I.
But I doubt it will make a bit of difference. Anyone can go to a gun show, and buy guns and ammo with no background check whatsoever.

Georgia-Man read my blog
Jun 14, 2007 | 5:53 AM

I say if our Goverment would start maybe three or four times a year building a big wooden platform on the court house lawn and letting there a-- swing until they are dead,dead,dead,.The criminals would think twice before they pulled the trigger, whether they bought the gun out of the trunk of a car or a gun show.
I am a member of the NRA and I agree with DVS11965 almost anylaw they pass on gun control will only make it harder for us trustworthy people to buy weapons

jackrabbit read my blog
Jun 14, 2007 | 7:49 AM

It is unfortunate that we've had to come to such strict laws just because there are a large group of people who abuse the right to bare arms act. However, if it's going to save lives I think that is well worth it.

Boogyman read my blog view my photos
Jun 14, 2007 | 8:04 AM

Frank that was the old days of buying guns at gun shows with no background check. Ammo yes but buying a gun no. What they do, do is give you a card and you go to their house after the show and buy it.

FlaNative read my blog view my photos
Jun 14, 2007 | 8:15 AM

One could argue that it was gun control laws that allowed the VT deaths to happen.

No weapons were allowed on campus, so the law in effect at the time didn't stop the killings. However, had someone had a CWP, maybe he would have been stopped long before he took his own life.

By following the law, innocent people died.

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