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I was out of school for many years, as was my daughter when the teaching of evolution in schools was "banned"... that Creationism and the newly created Intelligent Design was bought into the school system and Evolution was put on the back burner. 

First off, Creationism is religious.  Religious thoughts/theories/stories/old folk tales are not supposed to be taught as the only reason for something "being" in public schools where students are of all religions or of none.  The Bible is a "rip off" of the Torah... which is based on stories through the first centuries of "intelligent" human beings and their experiences, and passing on those learnings.  Not eating seafood and pork is a good example... the sickness that followed if the food was not prepared properly.

The Intelligent Design teachings are a farce... a compromise.  There was no intelligence in the design... look at the history of mankind. ;-)  (Women should have been put first over man.... God should have created Eve first.  Without her there would have been no humans born... and men have a habit of not following instructions... think of xmas eve and the new bike... a man will put the thing together without reading the instructions and the first time the child gets on the bike, a wheel falls off.  A woman will make sure the wheel does not fall off!  (I just got a new chair at work.  the men in my section told me to call Facilities to put the chair together.  Someone else had gotten a new chair.  I put my chair together... no problems... the chair put together by the men in Facilities... I watched them... didn't read the instructions... the person had to call Facilities to fix the chair this AM... my chair is working perfectly!)

Evolution has proof... fossils that predate the so called dates in the Bible and Torah... that predate the existance of "human" life on this planet.   Other findings have proven the beginning of this planet, without life, that also predate the dates set by the Creationist and Intelligent design theories. 

Creationists believe in the depictions of early artists that the first humans, Adam and Eve, looked like us, but Evolution shows they looked more like apes. 

I have talked to some really religious friends and they agree that one can believe in the Bible teachings while in church, but that education needs to be factual... in other words... your knowledge teaches you the truth, your belief teaches faith... but they all agree that religion should not take over what science has proven... or we will be back to the days of the Inquisition.

 

 

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Centauri65 read my blog
Feb 20, 2008 | 10:53 AM

The problem is that those who believe in creationism will not look at anything that will counter their view. All the evidence is generally ignored. The problems of blindly following without questioning. Too much to believe on blind faith.

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 20, 2008 | 1:39 PM

Centauri... I agree. I conversations with some of them, just when you think you have them convinced, they come up with "Someone had to created the solar system, the Big Bang, etc. When my daughter was very little, she believed in Santa Claus. She was younger than her classmates. I used the story "that if one child believed that he was real, then he was." As she got older I told her the story of St. Nicholous... that he before he became a saint (ironically by the same faiths that denounce Santa Claus..) he would go to houses and slip toys or food into the windows of the poor. My, then 6 year old, responded with this... "So, when the guy died, they made him a saint (we are jewish on one side, catholic on the other side) and every year he still comes back to give toys to the kids... so Santa Claus is really real."

The same thing goes for evolution... the dinasours may not be here any longer, but the diggings bring them, and other beings from our history, back to life. Can not argue the truth. And, as I said before, evolution predates the STORIES of the bible.

As they say, those that refuse to acknowledge history, are doomed to repeat it. Religion is the leading cause of death in this world. Some day the dinosaurs might just return and prove their point!

Georgenfla read my blog view my photos
Feb 20, 2008 | 6:27 PM

Yeah, I was shocked that our poor children are not taught facts, but are instead taught a load of religious bologna in our public schools. Isn't it illegal to teach religion in public schools? Ever hear of the separation between church and state? What would happen if our children went out of state for college? Our children would look like redneck fools, not knowing anything about evolution. What an injustice our public school systems are here in Florida, damaging the minds of our children with religious foolery! It sickens me.

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 21, 2008 | 4:43 PM

georgenfla... like you, I was shocked to hear that religious beliefs were taught in public schools over scientific facts. I have to find the stupid FCATs that I printed out last year to see if evolution or creationism is mentioned in the science section. (I just moved and have yet to find a lot of things!)

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Feb 21, 2008 | 9:07 PM

"Scientific facts"

That is very funny! Darwinism is just a theory, that has no basis in facts.

No one has proved it true. No one.

It is a theory. Unfortunately, a widely held theory, but a theory nonetheless.

So basically, it is believing in a fantasy, much like the Darwinists believe creation is.

Who is right?

willrock43 view my photos
Feb 22, 2008 | 6:23 AM

No one seems to understand that the research about intelligent design is extensive and very well thought out. If evolution is true, where are the missing links? What about the Cambrian explosion where hundreds of fossils are found in there present form? Has anyone every studied irreducible complexity? It’s funny that it was said that Creationists do not want to hear any counter arguments, but if you watch debates about the issues, it is usually the Evolutionists that attack the Creationists in an ad hominen way. Darwin, himself, said that if the transitional could not be found, his theory would fall apart. Where are the transitional links?

willrock43 view my photos
Feb 22, 2008 | 6:23 AM

No one seems to understand that the research about intelligent design is extensive and very well thought out. If evolution is true, where are the missing links? What about the Cambrian explosion where hundreds of fossils are found in there present form? Has anyone every studied irreducible complexity? It’s funny that it was said that Creationists do not want to hear any counter arguments, but if you watch debates about the issues, it is usually the Evolutionists that attack the Creationists in an ad hominen way. Darwin, himself, said that if the transitional could not be found, his theory would fall apart. Where are the transitional links?

willrock43 view my photos
Feb 22, 2008 | 7:02 AM

Stupid mouse!! Please ignore the second post. :-)

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 22, 2008 | 3:53 PM

will... no apology needed... I have the same problem with my laptop doing things on its own!

As to your post... Yes, Darwin put forth theories. The evolutionists have proof... okay, the missing links/transitional... someday they will come out... but Creationism!?!? Come on... based on "oral" stories? Our kids do not have a choice, unless they have a brave teacher who will go up against the Creationist stories.... and risk losing his/her job.

Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Feb 23, 2008 | 7:55 AM

Looks like Daytona Frank takes the opposing view. Religions deemed factual that the sun revolved around the Earth and killed those that said nay. Religion is simply faith, not fact. The jusy is still out on Darwin, but it looks good.

Last week I saw one of those fish on the back of a car, you know, the ones that say "Jesus" inside. This one said "Darwin". I was laughing so hard I had to stop the car. Well done.

"The Intelligent Design teachings are a farce... a compromise." Well, yeah. And it makes sense. Something started everything, and things DID change over time. Sounds like a good compromise to me. Why not teach it?

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 23, 2008 | 11:44 AM

Vitt... I think a better word than "Intelligent" should be used.... how about "Pseudo" or maybe "faux", maybe even "wishy washy"?

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Feb 23, 2008 | 8:01 PM

The simple minds seem to be the majority here.

Do you believe everything on the planet just happened by chance? That the miracles you see everyday, all around you just came about on thier own?

That the delicate balance of the earth, the moon, and the planets in our particular solar system, just happened in a big bang?

That would be the equivalent of a tornado blowing through a junkyard, and assembling a 747!

You fools. You will find out in the end.

Go ahead and laugh. What if you are wrong?

Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Feb 24, 2008 | 6:37 AM

Sorry Charlie. It's so wasy to take the simple route, say God did this in his spare time ( can that which created time have spare time?) rather than actually study what we have and learn about it.

BTW, why do cats and dogs have eyebrows?

Well Frank, yeah. I think everything on this Planet happened due to a series of events we are beginning to understand. Call it chance if you will. Your explanation that God did everything, we shouldn't bother studying and learning where we come from..... well, I'm glad you're not curious. I am. I'll use the brain and associated processes God gave me. You really believe everything started in 4004 BC?

Calling those with different opinions fools does nothing to increase your credibility. Makes you arrogant.

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 24, 2008 | 9:55 AM

The simple mind is the one that refuses to see the whole picture, the actual proof, not such black and white, but all the colors... in this case... bones and relics that predate the bible's history/story telling. The bible tells of great floods... the end one of the ice ages? Great famines? Weather patterns shifting due to the earth changing?

Again... the facts are there to be seen. The bible is just a story book. Believe in it if YOU want as a theory, but every day evolution is being proven. Do not force it on those who see physical proof. Teach all theories in school... do not say that one, based on stories, is the only real basis for us being here.

Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Feb 24, 2008 | 2:45 PM

You got it; teach 'em all and let folks make up their own minds. That's fair, right?

The disturbing thing is that there are many out there who insist on telling others what to believe.

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 24, 2008 | 4:00 PM

I am glad that I got out of teaching. It is such a shame that teachers have to hide their teaching of evolution... using other words, hemming and hawing, risk losing their jobs if they even mention evolution. But then again, look how the so called Christians have taken over everything... the Jews and other religions want their children to be allowed to take holidays off from school without them being counted as absenses... since christian holidays automatically included int the schedules... Christmas, Easter....but that is another topic. In spite of what the christians believe, this country was founded based on religious freedom... all religions, or no religion. Forcing children to study Creationism is a "sin".

Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Feb 25, 2008 | 8:28 AM

Yep. Check the old documents. God is certainly mentioned but no other members of the Trinity. We are not a Christian nation or any kind of theocracy.

Jumpy983 read my blog view my photos
Feb 25, 2008 | 10:41 AM

they have eyebrows for the same reason they have belly buttons. go ahead and look...they're there.

charli read my blog view my photos
Feb 25, 2008 | 4:08 PM

vitt... we were discussing this topic at work today. A coworker nearly fell out of his chair when he heard me say that the bible was made up of stories, not the facts/truth of what happened. I wanted to add that the christians had no right to enforce the teaching of the bible as the creation of man... after all, they stole it from the Jews and made some changes! Just look at the millions of people they, the christians, killed in enforcing their beliefs. Sure, one could argue that evolution killed billions of living beings... but then again, the christians could say that god did it... mass murder!

Vittorio read my blog view my photos
Feb 25, 2008 | 5:07 PM

To jumpy, you miss the point. Strict Creationists state that Humans have nothing in common with "lower" animals, hence my quip about eyebrows. I go with evolution, but a God(ess) started the whole shebang.

To Charli, of course you are correct, but let's remember; most if not every religion had it's murderous episodes. Perhaps some fanatic Muslims are going through theirs now as it's a relatively new religion.

I'm not excusing any of them. The only religious group I know of that's completely tolerant are the Pagans. Gimmee that old time religion, it's good enough for me.

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I am an Environmental Specialist with Hills. Cty. Basically, I am a "dumpster diver". I also do a lot of educational graphics design about the proper disposal of household chemical & electronics, litter, etc. My hobbies are very diverse... golf and reading, with sci-fi, forensic mysteries, and history being my favorites. My other passion is photography, mostly nature. Ever since experiencing my first hurricane in Florida, Cleo in 1964 when I was 15, when the eye went over my house, I have been fascinated with weather. I have a 99% accuracy... including predicting Charley's turn away from Tampa the night before he hit down south.

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