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Okay, the police botched the search for his daughter.  We all know that.  Why didn't they insist on searching the trailer the killer was living in... a known sex offender?  They had "just cause".  A lot of things were botched by the police. 

So now the police are filing to enact a law that says people can not sue the police.  Why?  To protect their behinds. 

I can just see it... A mother files a report stating that her hubby, the step father to her daughter, molested her daughter.  The police investigate the guy... find him to be an "upright, church going man".... teh "head" officer  even goes to the same church, knows the man, and drops the investigation.  The child is later found dead.  Evidence proves the step dad did it.  Mom can not sue the police for a botched investigation?

Take the issue of the "pursuit"... officer does not follow the rules.  An innocent man is killed when the officer in pursuit runs a light and causes the innocent man to run into a lamp post in order to avoid a police car that is not following the new "chase" law.  The man's family can not sue the police for "police error"?!?!?!

Filing suit against the individual officers in both cases is useless as the department will back him up. .. and you will not be allowed to sue the department.

 You can file suits against companies... basically the police department are "companies" and you should be allowed to sue them!

 

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Jumpy983 read my blog view my photos
Mar 6, 2008 | 4:43 PM

You should be allowed to sue for gross negligence, not for any little thing. If your kid wanders off and it takes the police a week to find him, do you sue because it took longer than you thought it should? or do you sue because you wanted to find your kid alive and they found him dead? or do you sue because the cops first interrogated you and your spouse first while you thought they should be focusing on an aunt/uncle or neighbor?

This could potentially be a harsh jumping off point for frivolous lawsuits. Just think about malpractice insurance and how the cost is passed to us. Why is aspirin in the hospital 80 dollars, but 3 dollars at CVS? It's all those lawsuits.

I'm not saying lawsuits should be banned, but you know how lawyers love to make a buck and I can see every Tom, Dick, and Harry who are missing their Xbox 360's to burglaries, suing the police force for the loss since they can't prove it to their insurance company.

RandyLoo read my blog view my photos
Mar 6, 2008 | 5:46 PM

We should be afforded full use of the court in every way. We should be allowed to bring any petition or complaint to the court for any reason. That is our right as a citizen. If it does not have substance according to the written law it is up to a judge to decide that matter and dismiss the lawsuit. I don't think any public entity should be exempt from being sued. This is America not China.

Jumpy983 read my blog view my photos
Mar 6, 2008 | 6:11 PM

We are afforded full use of the court system. This is why cranky stupid people are awarded HUGE sums of money for something that SHOULD be a matter of common sense. I'm thinking the lady that sued McDonalds because there was no warning stating her coffee was hot.

These are the lawsuits that are clogging up the system already. The last thing we need to do is add more. I do agree that nothing should be exempt from being sued, I just hate that people are sue happy now since they're all looking for that magic windfall settlement.

Jumpy983 read my blog view my photos
Mar 6, 2008 | 6:17 PM

In the end, who's going to end up paying for all these settlements? It's going to be the taxpayers since law enforcement and other public services are not private businesses. They'll just pass the settlement costs onto us in our taxes since unlike the private sector, there's not another "competing" company to fill the gap.

I can't put what I'm trying to say into words. In the private sector if a company is sued into oblivion, they file bankruptcy and another company is right there waiting to take over their clientèle. For public service there is no "other company" to come in and take over, so we're screwed. Fortunately, there is a law in place ATM that caps the dmgs to 100,000 dollars.

yellowdog read my blog view my photos
Mar 7, 2008 | 6:43 AM

And the legislature can choose to award much greater damages (and have done so in the past) if it is justified.

Cops are human and the agencies make mistakes and must be held accountable for negligence and wrong doing.

To ban all lawsuits will result in the "bad apples" feeling they are "above the law".

This is just a typical "knee jerk" reaction from a typical political jerk who is pandering for a few votes.

Jumpy983 read my blog view my photos
Mar 7, 2008 | 9:20 AM

very true YD, I can see SOMike being one of those "above the law" types LOL :)

charli read my blog view my photos
Mar 7, 2008 | 4:55 PM

great I agree about the frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers have made a mockery of the system. Yes, we taxpayers will have to pay extra if lawsuits are filed against certain agencies, but it is worth it to force the agencies to pay more attention, and in the end, it will cost us taxpayers less as the agencies will be forced to be more diligent in their duties.

Well, it looks like we have some really bad weather moving in so I am shutting down my computer. Have a safe night.

CastleDee
Mar 10, 2008 | 12:06 PM

I also agree, that the american public is sue happy, and lawyers should not take a frivolous law suit. But, it is our right to hold people accountable in this country, and if the police dept. drops the ball, and a child is murder because of it. That is a good reason to make the dept. accountable! He is not looking for the money, he is trying to help the next persons child. I give him a lot of credit for that. People should be thanking him, not giving him grief for his efforts!

tangmann
Mar 10, 2008 | 12:09 PM

I find this case tragic on so many levels. First, they had hits on the trailer with the hounds. The Sherriff’s office was unable to put probable cause together to enter that trailer based on the K-9 officer’s findings. Secondly, I find it atrocious that the grandfather had to endure the accusations and questioning that he did, especially during his time of grief. These actions have probably brought emotional damage to the Lunsford family that will never completely heal.
I am 100% behind Mark Lunsford. In many cases, it appears that the DA and law enforcement seek to find the quickest and easiest person to convict, not necessarily the person that is guilty of the crime. Presently, when you are questioned by law enforcement, they act as though you are guilty of the crime and it is up to you to prove your innocence.
I have personally been pulled over because I was in a vehicle of a similar color (not make and model) to one that used in the commission of a crime in Polk County that afternoon. I was in St. Petersburg when I was pulled over. My brother-in-law and I were separated and we had an officer going back and forth between us telling lies and deceptions about what the other person was saying, just trying to trick us into saying something that could incriminate us. I felt very fortunate that I had receipts from a local store from the time at which the crime took place with me or I may have ended up getting arrested that night for a crime that I did not commit.
I can only hope that one of the outcomes from Mark Lunsford’s suit is that the practice of “good

charli read my blog view my photos
Mar 10, 2008 | 5:06 PM

One could see how much Lunsford was shaken up by the case. The police had probable cause and did not act on it. Couey is so child like that I can see Lunsford daughter being nice to him, trusting him. Of course, during the trial, I could see that Couey was faking a lot of stuff... but, the police were at fault. If Lunsford loses his case it will set a precedence. None of us will ever have a chance of winning a suit against an incompentant police person or department, no matter what the evidence shows!

acquarian1950 read my blog
Mar 11, 2008 | 8:16 AM

Yes, Bubba is an ass, but he serves a purpose. In this case, he has exposed Lunsford for what he really is, an ignorant piece of white trash. Lunsford is a drunk, a druggie, a fraud, and a child pornographer. Listen to the tapes of the phone calls, Lunsford is disgusting in his display of ignorance, his inability to answer simple questions was glaring, his use of swear words, major! I for one am dismayed that the authorities have not instituted a full scale investigation into Lunsford's activities. When they do we will all see what role he played in his daughter's death, which I believe was a great factor in her death. Each time he opens his mouth, it demeans the memory of Jessie.

Omle
Mar 11, 2008 | 1:33 PM

We all know the statistics about members of families being involved, but when that gives an entire department tunnel vision, we are in real trouble.

If the Citrus County Sheriff's office has such wonderful leadership, then why didn't they already know that John Couey was not living at his registered address. Who is checking on these offender's? Personally, I was hoping Steve Burch would stay in Citrus Co. and run for sheriff, so we would have had a true professional running the department.

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I am an Environmental Specialist with Hills. Cty. Basically, I am a "dumpster diver". I also do a lot of educational graphics design about the proper disposal of household chemical & electronics, litter, etc. My hobbies are very diverse... golf and reading, with sci-fi, forensic mysteries, and history being my favorites. My other passion is photography, mostly nature. Ever since experiencing my first hurricane in Florida, Cleo in 1964 when I was 15, when the eye went over my house, I have been fascinated with weather. I have a 99% accuracy... including predicting Charley's turn away from Tampa the night before he hit down south.

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