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Should ecstasy posession be a felony?

Mar 12, 2008 | 8:22 AM
Category: Political

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Some in the Kansas Senate apparently think so. There is currently a bill pending in the Senate Judiciary Committe that would make the second offense of ecstasy posession a felony - even if the first offense was under a city ordinance.

implementation of this bill is estimated to cost taxpayers $700,000.00 to $1,300,000.00. With Kansas decreasing revenue and increasing debts, does this really make sense? Should we fill a cell with someone who was caught with a drug so we can let a rapist or robber go free?

HB 2545 should be defeated. We need to call the members of this committe and fill them in on the news - the drug war is a failure. Drug abuse is bad, but the war on drugs is worse. If you live in Johnson County, odds are your senator is Barbara Allen, who serves on this committe. Her office can be reached at 785-296-7353

Please stop wasting my tax dollars.

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Mar 12, 2008 | 9:36 AM

YES! I partied VERY hard until I was about 33.Lots of places,drugs,women,alchohol,weed you name it I LOVED IT!I had my "knee's in the breeze" and experienced the best and worst of that culture. I NEVER GOT BUSTED BECAUSE I NEVER ACTED LIKE A FOOL! Cops are pretty busy these days and you would have to acting a fool to be singled out TWICE for possesion.Some people cant handle it... you know that as well as I do. So if we have to lock a few of the idiots up to keep the rest safe...FINE BY ME!

Besides..the older I get I realize that I truely gained nothing from my experiences...who cant party till they drop? Did I gain any enlightenment from my lifestyle of absolute freedom , answering to no one?YES!
I learned that no matter how good the sun felt on my back,wind in my face at the end of the day it was pretty empty.I chose the retreat of the country air , a family ,RESPONSIBILITY and I can still feel the sun and wind....Its just not empty at the end of the day. Drugs rob you of the true rewards of life.

mpvan

Mar 12, 2008 | 9:58 AM

The rapists and robbers go free anyway because the jails are too full. Different levels of murderers go free after about 15 years as well. The newspaper is full of stories of families of murder victims having to go to the parole hearings of the convicted--to try to keep them in prison One of the reasons to make it a felony is so that the perpetrator can be tagged for the crime and/or the prosecutor can start bargaining from the top.

Once convicted of a felony, a person is marked for life and will be shortchanged in several venues, employment opportunities being a major one.

jpbikerfreak

Mar 12, 2008 | 10:04 AM

You don't even have to be convicted, mpvan.

Just get ARRESTED for a felony and you're tagged for life. Go on diversion or make a plea bargain down to a misdemeanor, you're STILL disqualified for some things. Get your felony expunged, it doesn't matter in some cases, it STILL counts against you.

Case in point: Kansas concealed carry. They even hold your JUVENILE records against you.

JohnKJR

Mar 12, 2008 | 12:10 PM

In my opinion; NO it should not be a felony.

spellcheckman

Mar 13, 2008 | 7:26 AM

With the crimes the "juveniles" are committing these days and getting charged as adults because the seriousness of them, it is just as well the Kansas conceal and carry laws take them into consideration when issuing a conceal and carry permit.

No better indicator of future behavior based on past behavior. Juvenile or not.

With prosecutors bargaining down from the original crime to get a conviction for a lesser, it's getting more and more difficult to determine what the offender actually did in comparison to what they got convicted of.

jstol3

Mar 13, 2008 | 8:11 AM

A lot of things should be de-criminalized unless we are prepared to spend a lot of money to build many, many new jails and prisons.

jpbikerfreak

Mar 13, 2008 | 8:26 AM

spellcheck-

We're not talking about violent juvenile crimes here, and again, we're talking about people who were never convicted in some cases.

ANY felony charge (unless you go to court and are aquitted) counts. This means if you plea bargain or take diversion. You're not convicted, but it's still held against you. Even a crime against property. And you can't honestly think that someone who tried to steal something at 15 years old is a danger to society at age 40, can you?

spellcheckman

Mar 13, 2008 | 11:38 AM

I CAN honestly think that, yes. Chances are if the person got caught at 15 stealing, he might even be more desperate at 40.

If you plea bargain you are admitting something at a lesser offense. Same thing with diversion. Either way you're a criminal. When you are acquitted, the courts have decided you didn't do it, you are free to go.

Past behavior does predict future behavior. Do the crime, take the consequences.

jpbikerfreak

Mar 13, 2008 | 12:15 PM

Wow. So no human out there who has ever made a mistake has changed his ways?

I guess I need to start getting a whole lot more suspicious of most everyone I know!

JewwellsP

Mar 13, 2008 | 2:09 PM

I can't disagree more. Many of the guy's I know including myself, not only change but their life changes on experience.

Many felony conviction's should have a limit that it can follow a person. Murder is one thing, caught hauling a pound of pot is another.

DocDaddy

Mar 14, 2008 | 2:12 PM

ah, drugs....

reminds me of my college days... both of them.

jpbikerfreak

Mar 14, 2008 | 2:20 PM

LOL, Doc!

Reminds me of something, but I just forgot.

Confram

Mar 15, 2008 | 12:47 PM

Yeah, lets let the child rapist out but lets bring in the guy who had an ounce of weed bagged up to sell.

stonewallacton

Mar 16, 2008 | 5:51 PM

your talking about the longest losing war in American history. The war on drugs, make felons for years out of mislead youths and black market business people. It a huge reason that jails are so over crowded. Take away a persons right to vote and mark them for employment for ever for addiction problems or recreational use. come on, this is a goverment getting to big for it's briches thing.

The_Ark

Mar 17, 2008 | 8:22 AM

I work in EMS, and have seen the effects of Ecstacy on the teenage population, its as dangerous as any other drugs on the street!

jpbikerfreak

Mar 17, 2008 | 9:59 AM

I don't think anyone is denying that, The Ark. Just because a person wants something de-criminalized doesn't mean he thinks it's a great idea for everyone to do.

Drugs may be bad, but the drug war is worse.

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