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by jpbikerfreak from Overland Park, KS

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As an active member and leader of a 3rd party, I sometimes hear people say things like, "well we do need an alternative to the two party system". Or even more frequently, they say, "if only we had a viable 3rd party", or even "we should create a 3rd party".

Well I'd like for ANYONE to find me ANY legal document ANYWHERE that says this country is a two party system. Find me any document written that says we even SHOULD be a two party system. The only people that would have you believe we are a two party system are the members of the power clubs known as the Democrats and Republicans, which are barely distinguishable at this point.

Not only are we NOT a two party system by design, our founding fathers even warned against political factions.

The fact is that the Libertarian Party is large enough to win almost any federal election (we expect to have ballot access in 48 states again in this election). So what is your excuse for thinking we live in a two party system? What is your reason for continuing to vote for the lesser of two evils?

You want real CHANGE? Stop electing candidates from the same two parties. The only solution either of them offers is more government.

As far as I'm concerned, a two party system is 1) Party on Friday night, 2) Party on Saturday night. And our government is doing both at our expense.

Government creates the problem, government solves the problem, government solution creates new problems. Do you see the common denominator?

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jstol3 read my blog
May 15, 2008 | 5:07 PM

Yes I do see the need. I am fast becoming convinced that in order to have some real changes in the way we, as a country, do business a drastic change has to take place in how the electorate thinks about issues.\

Eminent domain is a good case in point. Eminent domain is only supposed to be used for the public good (to my way of thinking) if for instance a new highway or airbase needs to be built in a particular location and your house is standing there. In recent years it has been used to allow commercial developers to take your land away from you so they can build a hotel or shopping mall with the blessing of the government. It doesn't happen very often and affects relatively few people but it has huge implications for all of us.

We do need a party that would stand up for our constitutional rights.

BeStrong read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 6:53 AM

I know alot of people who are ready to vote third party! And if anytime in history this needs to happen it is NOW! I only wish the media would shine more light on these canidates so the people would have more confidence to vote third party.

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 7:21 AM

public USE. The key word is USE. Not good.

Yes I agree 100% jstol. In fact, the Libertarian Party of KS helped write and introduce legislation into the KS House to amend the constitution to stop eminent domain abuse.

It failed by 3 votes.

This all came about because of Kelo v. New London in the US Supreme court.

It was ruled that the word USE in the 5th amendment actually meant GOOD.

RabidAnglophile read my blog
May 16, 2008 | 10:44 AM

I've done the thing of not voting for the Dems or the Repubs and was told (by a Dem) that I "wasted" my vote. I don't think I wasted it if I voted for a "change".

jstol3 read my blog
May 16, 2008 | 12:39 PM

jp -

This sounds like a matter of semantics. Public use, public good (I'm not being critical). In my mind public use or good is in opposition to private use or good with the distinction being between public and private rather than between use or good.

jstol3 read my blog
May 16, 2008 | 12:41 PM

I forgot to say that I believe the court erred in its interpretation.

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 12:51 PM

Public use is a road. Public good is a shopping center that just happens to generate more taxes.

It makes a big difference when the bulldozer is leveling YOUR house.

As long as it's someone else's house I guess it's no biggie LOL

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 12:51 PM

That's the thing about the law - it is all semantics. But the reality of those semantics can be devastating.

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 1:52 PM

Rabd, nothing makes my blood boil faster than the phrase 'wasted vote'.

that is the most arrogant thing any politician can say as far as I'm concerned.

A WASTED VOTE is a vote for someone you don't even like.

It's not like the votes BELONG to them anyway.

gimini210 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 2:15 PM

Well if you go by some of the national blogs it may end up Independents and republican as alot of democrats are furious because of thier votes "not counting" for their party candidate. Some are talking of getting out and staying out. Alot are. It is truely sad to see how angry they are.

jstol3 read my blog
May 16, 2008 | 2:31 PM

jp -

Maybe my thinking is flawed and maybe I don't get the semantics all the time. I agree with you.

In my mind, however the public uses the road to drive on and uses the shopping center to shop in. To me the difference is that the road was built with public money whereas the shopping center was built with private money. Eminent domain should never be used to further private interests.

We would have come to the same conclusion had we been the ones to make the decision but would have used a different thought process.

linecrosser read my blog
May 16, 2008 | 8:52 PM

A third party, would that be on Thursday or Sunday? Really though the two party system is actually just one and it is self promoting and has very little if any interest in the general public. I'll back almost any third party, just to throw out the bums in office now. The toilet in D.C. is backed up and needs flushing.

KCGTA
May 16, 2008 | 11:58 PM

LOL, linecrosser!

I agree with all these posts. I have always wondered what would have happened in 1992 if H. Ross Perot didn't bail out of the race at the last minute, thus alienating his supporters, which were many including me. It seemed to me it was a true 3 horse race up until then that year. He realized he threw a legit shot away by doing that and tried to get back in, but it was too late.

I pay no attention to party affiliation. I vote for the person that I agree with the most. The bad part is that parties other than democrats/GOP don't have the financial resources to get the word out. That is too bad, because the common citizen IMO has to research the other options. Therefore many of them aren't even aware.

I have been all over the map, GHW Bush (woulda been Perot), Dole, Nader have all received a vote from me. Of all the candidates out there now, ol' Ralph Nader still is hitting me the best. I think he has many worthy views, but the only exposure he gets is because he runs for president every 4 years since the 1970s. It's too bad. If he were a Democrat/GOP, he may have been taken more seriously. I agree there is a problem. The solution is what isn't so clear to me...

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
May 19, 2008 | 7:01 AM

It's the same process, Jstol. I'm just trying to explain to you how the COURT saw it.

MissNancy read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 6:16 PM

I am a strong supporter of doing away with the two party system. No, it is not a legislated system, it is a customary system. The media will not recognize any but the two, and this year, they are only recognizing one.

The media says your choice should be Obama and if you don't get it by now, they will make sure you get it before the election. Soul light will twinkle from Obama's teeth and McCain will be shown in shadow.

I am Libertarian as well, however, I realize that this year a vote for Barr will mean an election for Obama. The core Dems will vote for Obama. They don't care as much about this country as they care about the Party or, about having their special interest in the White House. A conservative split will elect Obama.

The Libertarian Party's time is coming, but not this election. If the country survives Barack H. O., then the next election will be a landslide for our party. People will have had it with both the major parties AND the main stream media hyping their personal choice.

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I love to discuss political philosophy. The problem I have is that liberals often assume I'm conservative and convserervatives often assume I'm liberal. It's because I'm neither. I'm libertarian, which means I believe in both social and economic freedom. I don't do personal attacks. I won't respond to yours, and I won't initiate one against you. So save yourself some time if you're thinking of flaming me!

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