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One of JFK's most remembered lines is "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your country".

One of Obama's lines is that "All citizens should have the same access as the rich and influential". I thought that we do all have equal access as long as we can pay for it. He appears to be saying that access should be paid for by the government.

Does anyone else see something faulty with his reasoning?

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gimini210 read my blog view my photos
Sep 14, 2008 | 8:05 PM

Yeap as I have said before, JFK's was " Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country", while Obama's is "Ask what your country can do for you, ask not what you can do for your country". He sees our country as a welfare country not as a republic.

DogJ read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 4:27 AM

Absolutely.
He is fundamentally opposite from me.

wood-cutter read my blog view my photos
Sep 15, 2008 | 8:30 AM

You have done a great job of pointing out the difference of the dem party from days gone by and the "new" dem party which is controlled by socialist with a "global" agenda.My only fear is that the older dems will still hold allegence to the party name without understanding what they have been morphed into. Great post.

MFerbet read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 10:18 AM

Funny, I don't see that.

I believe that the Democratic Party represents the People of the United States, and the Republican Party represents the Corporations of the World.

Who is right? Who is wrong?

Both parties are guilty of something.

I believe in a Strong Federal Government. I believe the Conservatives believe in a weak Federal Government. Their actions have proven this over and over again...

We have become a Welfare Nation by the very actions of those that have been elected to office over the past decade or more.

The Left and the Right are radical. The Centrists in this country just don't seem to have a true candidate. So we pick on whom would do the least harm in office.

DogJ read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 11:20 AM

Strong (Bully) Federal Gov't = Too Big, Mismanaged, delving into areas where they have NO constitutional authority.

Weak (Focused) Federal Gov't = Sticks to the authority granted by the constitution.Everything else is left to the States

"We have become a Welfare Nation... over the past decade or more." - MFerbet
How about "almost 50 years", beginning with LBJ's Great Society?

I TOTALLY agree with your last paragraph.

mpvan read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 5:02 PM

If I ever voted, I would pick who would do the most harm, that way they would change things the most.

There isn't one running this election though.

jstol3 read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 5:55 PM

mp -

That is a truly unique way of looking at it.

vision read my blog
Sep 15, 2008 | 8:08 PM

Unless you are looking at it through a Marxist attitude, then it would all be the same, a communist environmental government, one friend of mine who has studied Marxist inside and out, states most of what Obama propositions are a form of Marxist belief.
(hint: civil armies)

vision read my blog
Sep 20, 2008 | 8:51 PM

DogJ, MFerbert just did not get it, he made the welfare statement and sides with the Dem party. If all can have the same thing, then why work, lets go on welfare, we will just use investments dollars to bail out and continue to support welfare and 12 mil, duh....... That would be the problem with that statement

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independant. If anyone wants to correspond directly with me you can do so at jstol3@netzero.com. I see myself as both a conservative and a conservationist. I despise wastefulness but I don't want environmentalists telling me how to live my life. I'm all for a free market system except when it comes to energy. This is a monopoly thast needs to be regulated! I diverge from most conservatives when it comes to abortion and stem cell research as I belive in freedom of choice and scientific progress as I believe that we were given a brain to think with. Knee jerk reactions and one issue politics turn me off. I am both a Vietnam veteran and former Vietnam war protester (we should have been allowed to win). I am an advocate of the war in Iraq (as long as we do what we have to to win) and the war on terror.

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