mystere's big mouth

It would be like if I as a man mixed with afro and euro genes decided tonight to go to a Klan meeting and demand they accept me as a member.

I do not think that we can stand in the way of homosexual unions. If they want to have a wedding that's fine... where I draw the line is in legalizing gay marriages so that the courts have to fill up with a whole new set of divorce proceedings. I don't even want to hear about the cost of counselling for the little Johnny has two mommies and I especially don't want teachers in the classroom telling my nieces and nephews how natural and acceptable homosexuality is. It boggles my mind that some activists actually think it's ok to shove this down our throats. (To steal a line from the agnostics about us christians.) And no... I wouldn't and haven't treated children of a gay union any differently cause as a mixed person I already know the one about "Well... it's the children who suffer the most in a white/black marriage."

I'd say he was reprogrammed...

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I like how I my Gay Marriage post doesn't make it to the MyFox list but this ones does. But thats besides the point I guess...

I personally don't see why people have a problem with gays getting married. I think Arnold is doing a good thing here, finally. Gay's aren't second class citizens.

statueman, even if marriage isn't working with heterosexuals, what does that have to do with homosexuals getting married? They deserve to be just as happy or miserable as us. Also, Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't even about gay's if you actually read the text.

And lastly, down with the "don't ask don't tell policy"!

oOlux0o

did you read what I said about sodom and gomorrah or did you just skim over it? My point was that there's no use either scape-goating gay/lesbians as the ultimate evil and nor is it necessary to pay it too much attention. It's going to go on in this country even if it's against the law. But there is also not much use asking folks to change to supply acceptance and tolerance of something they'd rather not see in the public square.

Or do we forget that roving bands of homosexuals used to run around city parks raping men and boys? After the retaliations for this started all over the country all of the sudden it was a "hate" crime. Unfortunately Sodomy may be a sympton of a greater evil but it is still considered by most folks with family values to be evil or at least a sickness.

Everyone:

Thanks for all the comments so far...I'll admit that I loaded this one big time with the wacky pictures!

Statueman,
You brought out some very interesting points. You have a good memory of the past attacks that have happened to both men and boys. That's a very important thing to remember.

Sebar and Craftyguy,
You guys made me laugh!

DfDeportation,
Isn't that the truth! Amen guy!

oOluxOo,
I respect your comments, even though I dont' agree with some of them. Just to give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I happen to know someone who died from AIDS, and he died a slow and agonizing death. He contracted the AIDS virus around 1986, and died in 1995. He lived in a predominantly gay neighborhood in Long Beach, and all of his "friends" who lived in that neighborhood at the time are now all dead from AIDS. His landlord rented a bunch of homes on the street he lived on to these gay men, and they all did the deed with each other. I'm going to call my friend Brad. Brad, in his last days told his younger brother and his sister in law to warn people just how dangerous it is to practice homosexual acts. Brad and all his friends suffered extremely agonizing deaths...he had at least a dozen friends who died about the same time he died. His younger brother is a good friend of mine, and to this day, he and his wife miss him dearly. This is one of the reasons why I speak out against gay marriage...these guys won't stay loyal to one another...they're likely to have multiple partners even if they were to be "together forever".

statueman: I did read it I just thought I'd mention that thats not what it's about since you brought it up and thats an issue many Christians bring up when this issue is brought up. Just because a couple of jerks went around raping men and boys doesn't mean all gays are going to go around doing that. Thats just as relevant as saying because theres men out there who rape women, heterosexuals are dangerous.

DfDeportation: Homosexuality may not be the norm but it is NOT unnatural.

mystere: I have a half brother who's gay and lives with AIDS. Sexually transmitted diseases ran ramped in those times because people didn't typically practice safe sex. Heterosexuals were not excluded from this period in time where AIDS was spreading. Granted, it was and is more common within the homosexual community for obvious biological reasons. Saying that homosexuals won't be loyal is very prejudice. You having known a person who wasn't loyal who also knew many other people who weren't loyal is irrelevant. Your segregated case doesn't speak for the community as a whole. We don't ban marriage for ourselves simply because there are men and women out there who cheat on their partners do we? Why should they pay for the mistakes of few when we don't?

Is there ANYTHING in Arnold's life that represents conservatism?

ANYTHING?

Just wondering, because the way he bends over for Uncle Teddy, Maria and the Mexican Caucus in Sacramento it seems to me the only thing he wants in life is to be popular amongst his peers, and if that means giving up his convictions (as if he ever had any) he's perfectly willing to do it.

If Arnold had the same views today that he held when he was running for election the first time, he never would have made it. Right now I'm wondering if he's any better than Gray Davis. It's not like California is in better shape economically.

Maybe he's been drinking Liberal Kool-Aid or something.

...got infected by the AIDS virus. Many of these men kept spreading the virus until they got too sick to engage in sex. They not only did the deed within their own neighborhood, but they went out all over the nearby communities, and spread the AIDS virus. Most of these guys didn't care! My friend "Brad" got the virus because his boyfriend did a number of guys when Brad had his first encounter with him. This "boyfriend" of his kept spreading the virus to others both in and outside the Long Beach area. A number of men who died in the Long Beach area during the mid 90s got infected by these dozen or so men from that one neighborhood. In fact, these men spread the virus around to many of the communities from Laguna Beach to the South Bay during the early to mid 90s. When my friend "Brad" got sick, he stopped having sex, left the neighborhood, and stayed with his brother and sister in law until he died. He left because he couldn't stand what these guys were doing to the others, and then told his brother some of the secrets about that community.

Now it's true that there are some who decide to stick with one person, but thee are a number who say they're going to stick with one, but really won't. Marriage vows will not stop someone who is going to stray.

I agree with Chapman Why Mystere do you think it is your job to regulate other peoples rights and lives based on your narrow life expieriences. What gives you that right? If gays want to get married and you don't like it that is your right but I do not think it is your right to block these people from trying to gain happiness. Conservatives love to defend marrige and how good it is at making stable families but when it is a gay couple that wants a stable family that is not good enough. Marrige is only for people who fit who you think should be married right? Marrige is more then something in the bible. It is older then christianity, older then islam even older then Judaism. Your not defending a christian institiution from gays your stopping people from enjoying a basic bond because you think its a christian thing.