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by ralex from E Jackson CO

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I'm attending a conference and met with some detectives from New Scottland Yard. The British have been dealing with bombings going back to their struggle's with the I.R.A. and now face terrorists of the home grown muslim types. In their explanations of how they have apprehended these bombers, I was impressed by how much they rely on all the camera's pointed in every direction on every corner. Every incident produced  a photo album of the perp's and some motion picture shots.

I thought of this country, and if a municipality talked of installing a camera at some signal light because of all the accidents, the furror caused by privacy advocates. But what crime tool is missed for the sake of privacy. British surveillance isn't reviewed unless there is an incident to investigate, as the amount of tape is staggering. So where is the privacy issue?

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Galanthias read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2007 | 7:56 PM

Cameras are important, no doubt about that.

I know that area officials already use the traffic cams to help in their search for vehicles and license numbers and private cameras also. They are a necessary evil, but only evil if mis-used. In our world though I can hear the lawsuit now from the crook cought by a camera how it infringed on his privacy, and sadly he will probably win.

SickandTiredofIdiots read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2007 | 9:37 PM

Only the guilty should mind. If you aren't doing anything wrong why would mind?

Galanthias read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2007 | 10:42 PM

I like the programs that can pick your mug shot out of a crowd. Making it harder for the guilty to hide.

specialteacher
Mar 28, 2007 | 11:01 PM

If you don't think these cameras are a bad idea, then let's put some in YOUR house first.

ralex read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 4:49 AM

Special; thats called a Reality Show. Not what we are talking about.

SickandTiredofIdiots read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 6:53 AM

I wish I could remember the statistics about how much crime went down in Britain when they put in the cameras. It was a lot.

putput7842 read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 7:11 AM

Specialteacher........are you affraid of being filmed on a camera. What are you teaching? Are you ashamed of what you do and affraid somebody might find out about it. If you're not doing anything wrong, what's the big deal? You think somebody is infringing on your privacy rights. Poor baby. If the Muslims ever get over here, all of your rights will change in a hurry and all you cry babies won't have any rights. Have a good day and Oh.......smile, you're on slam-bam-security cam.

harleychaser read my blog
Mar 29, 2007 | 9:03 AM

This is very interesting. I find myself in the middle of this debate. On a smaller issue though. We live on a very quiet street. 5 houses, two which are vacant, two which elders live. There is one person that seems to think this is the perfect place to deal his drugs. I have reported this to the police, hoping that we could end it peacefully. All they wanted to know is, when do they do this. Easy huh, all the time. So, I started taking pictures. Lots of picture. Now I have the delima of turning them over and WHAT? Be in trouble myself? Not sure about all the legals here, but, If I end up doing time, I'LL LET YOU KNOW!!!!!!!

SUZY_Q read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 10:22 AM

I dont' have an issue with Cameras - I think they'd settle a lot of debates. Answer a lot of questions. Turn lies into truth. I have nothing to hide.

I would perfer they stay out of my home. Especially my bedrood, bathroom. :-O

My street is A-ok. It would be boring video tho.

NoBody read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 11:44 AM

I think cameras are a good idea. I am constantly under survalance at work except in my office where I'm the one watching the monitors.

Jordan read my blog
Mar 29, 2007 | 11:57 AM

This is not a “privacy” issue. When you go out in public you have no expectation or entitlement to privacy. That’s why news crews and anyone else with a camera can take your picture. Actually, as we’ve seen, with the new cell phones that can take stills and videos, more and more people are finding themselves on the news and Websites like U-tube. There is hardly a business anywhere that doesn’t use security cameras, so as we travel about, we are constantly under surveillance whether we are consciously aware of it or not. This is not, as we’ve seen, necessarily a bad thing. Another point. Nowhere in the US Constitution is there stated that a person has a right to privacy. It has been implied and applied by interpretation of certain amendments, but then it is only with respect to places where a person has a “reasonable expectation” of privacy. Personally, I think the cameras are a great idea, the more the better. Maybe the mere possibility that a surveillance camera might be pointed in someone’s direction will serve as a deterrent to crime. We already know that it has, in many cases, helped to solve crimes.

Jordan read my blog
Mar 29, 2007 | 11:58 AM

This is not a “privacy” issue. When you go out in public you have no expectation or entitlement to privacy. That’s why news crews and anyone else with a camera can take your picture. Actually, as we’ve seen, with the new cell phones that can take stills and videos, more and more people are finding themselves on the news and Websites like U-tube. There is hardly a business anywhere that doesn’t use security cameras, so as we travel about, we are constantly under surveillance whether we are consciously aware of it or not. This is not, as we’ve seen, necessarily a bad thing. Another point. Nowhere in the US Constitution is there stated that a person has a right to privacy. It has been implied and applied by interpretation of certain amendments, but then it is only with respect to places where a person has a “reasonable expectation” of privacy. Personally, I think the cameras are a great idea, the more the better. Maybe the mere possibility that a surveillance camera might be pointed in someone’s direction will serve as a deterrent to crime. We already know that it has, in many cases, helped to solve crimes.

liberty1 read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 1:26 PM

I don't have many problems with increased camera surveillance. However, when I lived in England in the fall of 2005, I noticed cameras all over the highways. I asked some locals what they were for and he said that they photograph cars when they pass a camera. They then photograph them at the next camera, and if the car is at the second point, before they're supposed to based on the speed limit, they get a ticket in the mail. I didn't drive much there, but you can rack up some serious fines for exceeding the speed limits even by the smallest margin.

cherokee316 read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2007 | 7:20 PM

I'm not only for the cameras,but would like to see some state laws or local ordinances for all restaurants,banks,small businesses to have at least one camera inside,and for all chain restaurants,stores,etc be required to have a certain amount outside(depending on their size)in the parking lot.It won't stop all crime but it will help solve more.I just thought of something we could do start an E-mail campaign to channel 4 and our local police departments to post pictures of wanted criminals and unsolved crimes on their webcites like they do the sex offenders,and have channel 4 do a 1/2 hour or 1 hour show each week during one of it's 9pm newscasts like Americas Most Wanted,one of the best ways to prevent crime is to get the criminals off the street and this would help us better do our part.

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I'm career firefighter, and a part time sheep farmer (shepherd). I also instruct night adult education classes in firefighting. I belong to the U.S. Naval Institute, Lions, and the Greater KC Two-Cylinder Club.

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