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Hybrids Selling in Hours, Used Prices Exceeding New Prices

Posted: Jun. 12, 2008 11:06 a.m.

If high gas prices have you thinking of buying a new hybrid, act fast.  They're vanishing from dealer lots faster than factories can make them.

USA Today reports, "While sales of conventional small cars soared last month, sales of the most popular gas-electric hybrids were flat or down because dealers had fewer left. There was plenty of demand, but hybrid assembly plants are running as fast as they can, and some are short of components, particularly batteries."

The Wall Street Journal adds, " At the end of May, a new Prius averaged just under 17 hours on a dealership lot before being sold, compared with an average 3.5 days at the end of April. For comparison, Toyota's average passenger car spends about 25 days at the dealership, according to the company." 

"So, how do you get one of these hot sellers?" asks Kicking Tires.  "Either get on a waiting list or buy used. Waiting lists for the Prius, we’re told, are roughly four to six months. The Civic Hybrid was less, at three to four months on average."

Oddly enough, the waiting list may be the cheaper option.  "Listings of used Priuses on Cars.com show models across the country -- with quite a bit of mileage -- going for more than their original asking price when brand new. This is almost unheard of in the automotive marketplace."

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Janice and Jim Violette, of Oakland, exemplify the trend. About two months ago, as gas prices spiked, they bought a two-door, 2008 Honda Civic, a model that gets about 28 city/35 highway gas miles per gallon.

"We traded in our 1997 Ford Explorer," said Janice Violette, 48, an account manager at TD Banknorth Insurance in Waterville.

"It was in great shape, but we were getting 15 miles per gallon," she said.

Her husband had used the old Explorer to commute to Bucksport, where he works as an electrician at Verso Paper.

"We had been paying around $700 a month; now it's down to $250," she said of their savings at the pump.

The price of gas has gone up 60 cents per gallon since her last calculations, she said.

Back in February, when gas was still around $3 per gallon, small and mid-sized cars represented only 34 percent of the market. By April, that figure rose to 47 percent, according to AutoObserver.com

The car sales trend is not escaping local dealers.

"People work on a weekly budget. Anything that gets 30 miles per gallon or better right now is very much in demand," said Steve Frend, sales manager at Charlie's Honda in Augusta.

Econo-cars like the Civic, Ford Focus, Honda Fit, Chevy Aveo and Toyota Yaris have been strong sellers for some time, Frend and other local dealers said.

But the current, dramatic shift hasn't been seen since the '70s, they noted.

National sales of the subcompact Yaris increased 46 percent in April, and the Honda Fit had a record month, according to a May 2 article in The New York Times.

That month, Ford Focus sales jumped 32 percent from a year earlier. About one in five vehicles sold in the United States in April was a compact or subcompact, a trend called a first by industry analysts, the article said.

Sales of four-cylinder engines also surpassed six-cylinder models; 42 percent of all vehicles sold that month were equipped with four-cylinder engines, according to the research firm J.D. Powers & Associates.

Car buyers are taking notice of hybrids, like the Toyota Prius. And, with that model, demand is not keeping up with supply, LeClair noted.

"There's none on the lot. We're selling them ahead. People are waiting a month or two for the Prius. We can't get the battery packs," he said.

"The Yaris and Prius have an extremely big backlog. There are only enough cars, in general, at the dealer's, to stock to two days worth of business. People are pre-selling before they get here," he said.

Yet, not everybody is buying small, he said. Some customers go from their full-sized pickup to a four-cylinder Toyota Camry that gets about 32 miles per gallon on the highway.

"A lot of people that had trucks for the family vehicle are going to the mid-sized car; those who had mid-sized are going smaller. They're not going from a big SUV to a four-seater," he said.

But the Ford Escape hybrid, a model that gets about 34 miles per gallon, usually needs to be ordered. And, so far, there is not a big demand for the Escape.

"A couple of people a month inquire. We sell 10 or 12 a year -- maybe one a month," he said. The Ford Edge, a crossover between a van and an SUV, is also moving, he said.

"Van sales are off. They don't make a van anymore," he said of models like the Windstar.

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polecatextreme read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 9:57 AM

try motorcycles, I get 42mpg city on my yamaha 1100, and around 53mpg highway.

celtic_cpl read my blog
Jun 16, 2008 | 4:39 PM

I don't plan on getting a car anytime soon, but have you ever tried to fit two adults, two kids, plus a wheelchair on a motorcycle? Even with a side car? Not even adding in groceries!

northton read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 5:38 PM

"But the Ford Escape hybrid, a model that gets about 34 miles per gallon, usually needs to be ordered. And, so far, there is not a big demand for the Escape."

Duh! 'Cause when you drive a Fjord, you'll need to escape from it when it starts flipping and rolling!

"Buy a Fjord. It's just as good as a Japanese car."

Speaking of quality imports, that are kicking our sorry lead asses, Toyota is looking at Lithium!

Get on the ball Fjord! Don't tell us you have already blown all of your money building things you thought we would want, and build the stuff we do want!

northton read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 5:43 PM

As good as a Toyota. That's sick!

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 7:32 PM

You are kidding right ? The Escape only gets 34 mpg ??? Come on the bloody Cobalt gets 35 and it is a blast to drive ! You are going to have to be showing me something like 60mpg to get me into a hybrid .

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 7:36 PM

Hey North isn't lithium the drug they give psychotics in the nut house ? It is no surprise that “imports” are able to so easily out maneuver us , they are able to work with out ANY of the government restraints that we have here in the USA !...let me pay workers 1 dollar a day and produce unlimited pollution and I will have some nice cars ready for you by next year (O yea and they must only have to meet road standards for Korea and Japan !) ....

signal12 read my blog view my photos
Jun 16, 2008 | 9:19 PM

RNC08~
The only Hybrid that can achieve the 60 mpg mark is the Honda Insight. In my opinion it's a Sardine can on wheels....

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 17, 2008 | 6:55 AM

.. I know but considering what one can achieve by super -tuning and a few mods to a conventional car I am serious about not adding 800 pounds (or more) of electrical components to a light weight frame for anything less than 60...so the new Honda fuel cell car is going to generate its hydrogen from my house hold electricity, wonder how much that is going to cost (inverting AC to DC is not very efficient)
BTW as far as I am concerned all Honda's are sardine cans on wheels ! They have been skating on reputation for a long long time now

Truthguys read my blog view my photos
Jun 17, 2008 | 8:41 PM

Hope you keep the car. It takes 20 years to pay for the gas you save. Check out Dave Ramseys money site.. he laughs at the cars.

signal12 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 10:22 AM

Truthguys~ Again if your refering to Hybrids "Talk to the OWNERS" I have owned them since 2004, in 2004 I paid 2k over invoice I saved that 2k in fuel costs by the 2nd year of ownership (taking trips to NC & Texas)... And that was before the prices started climbing so now they really will pay for them selves... :o)

signal12 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:24 AM

I find it funny in a strange way, how people grip and complain for CHANGE.. Then when auto makers come out with a Gas / Electric Hybrid vehicle that get far better gas mileage than their equilly sized counter parts, people bash them with out reading how they work. They read the reviews from persons that are clearly against them in the forst place and it appears their bosses have twisted their arms to test drive and write a review..

I had just about heard it all, in regards to Hybrids. I cant believe the amount of ignorant poeple that just do not know what they are talking about..

signal12 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:30 AM

In January of 2004, I was sent to a class given on the Toyota Prius. As My department had leased 5 as a test bed to see if they could be used in police work. (they passed everything thrown at them except for extreme patrol use & transporting prisoners). The car that I was assigned was used in malls for show. I ended up printing out & laminating fact sheets and a sheet that explained how the system worked.. The Prius makes a great vehicle for use as a investigators car as its not needed for chasing.

SushiLover read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 11:22 AM

I have a friend that just traded in his tahoe for a prius.. He says its a great car. I told him it looks small, he said its the same size as a matrix.. I told him no thanks, I'll keep my 70's Space Hopper...

Don't know what that is? google it.. :o)

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